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Hugo Borchardt 02-27-2012 09:40 PM

Obvious restoration?
 
I guess I'm still a rookie, but to me the pics seem to counter the story?

http://www.gunauction.com/search/dis...emnum=10903285

Ron Wood 02-27-2012 11:46 PM

Sure, it is a rebuild. Can't call it a restoration since it never left DWM that way. Rebarreled to 7.65mm, Crown/N breechblock, LOADED extractor...all on a military gun. It is not, as they state, original blue, but it is a darned nice reblue.

LugerMan.com 02-28-2012 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugo Borchardt (Post 208535)
I guess I'm still a rookie, but to me the pics seem to counter the story?

http://www.gunauction.com/search/dis...emnum=10903285

1918 is not original, it's a modern restamp.

LugerMan.com 02-28-2012 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugo Borchardt (Post 208535)
I guess I'm still a rookie, but to me the pics seem to counter the story?

http://www.gunauction.com/search/dis...emnum=10903285

oh, and grips are Italian repros.

The only good parts of the gun are LOAD extractor and nice nickel mag, that has a bad repro wood bottom on it, by the way.

Top price for this item is: $550-600

alanint 02-28-2012 09:06 AM

Agreed, the font and look of the date is wrong. The magazine's wooden base is also a home workshop item. Look at the extremely poor fit to the magazine's metal body.

ithacaartist 02-28-2012 02:09 PM

We noticed the misaligned witness marks and atypical lengthwise orientation of ser # on bbl. Thanks Eugene, for an explanation of why the grips fit so crappy. The checkering looks coarser than average, like Dutch?

saab-bob 02-28-2012 02:13 PM

Wow!
The knowledge of you gentlemen is amazing. You can pick up on the tells immediately. Remind me never to play poker with any of you!
Bob

LugerMan.com 02-28-2012 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ithacaartist (Post 208578)
We noticed the misaligned witness marks and atypical lengthwise orientation of ser # on bbl. Thanks Eugene, for an explanation of why the grips fit so crappy. The checkering looks coarser than average, like Dutch?

Over the years I have seen so meany bad grips, i almost always have a copy of any bad set i see in my crap box.

same with this, they are Italian if the have two holes on the back, or Indian if they are more in to red color.

Wrong direction of the numbers on the barrel, can be from Finn or Swiss rework, and actually Kreghoff and I think Simpson did that as well.

But in this case the font of the numbers on the barrel is the same as an incorrect 1918 = modern numbers.

This gun is a project gun, that can be turned in to a Baby or Carbine, or just keep it as a shooter.
But the price for a it is max of $600, any more and you need to look away from the light ;0)

c3006 02-28-2012 05:29 PM

I'm betting it goes over $1200. P T Barnum said it right.

alvin 02-28-2012 05:44 PM

For shooting fun in range, this one's ammo is not cheap. Probably bidders reload at home.

When the barrel was re-installed, why didn't the owner install a 9mm barrel on it? that's a mistake.

Hugo Borchardt 02-28-2012 09:02 PM

Thanks, gentlemen!

Touché, Ron! "Restoration" was a poor classification for this one!

whcoyote 02-29-2012 06:20 PM

Erfurt breech block.

Ron Wood 02-29-2012 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whcoyote (Post 208663)
Erfurt breech block.

It has a Crown/N breechblock. How do you tell that it was originally Erfurt?

Also just noticed that it has a blank toggle. Some thngs elude me at first look. Really an odd mixture of parts and markings.

MFC 03-01-2012 12:21 AM

I thought you guys knew Lugers. It's clearly a "1918 Commercial Sneak" :D


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