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Tango2020 02-26-2012 10:18 PM

What Do I have??
 
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This was handed down from my grandfather who took it from a German officer. It is a DWM and has TK engraved on it. I see the # 44 on the side but no serial # otherwise.

Other than this it has engravings tip to toe.

rob00000 02-26-2012 10:25 PM

Without pics it's gonna' be near impossible for anyone to give you some good answers on your luger.

Tango2020 02-26-2012 10:26 PM

I'm trying to figure out how to do that. Seems I dont have the athoriti.

Tango2020 02-26-2012 10:40 PM

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DavidJayUden 02-26-2012 11:11 PM

It certainly is pretty. Much nicer than most that we see here. They are generally some GI's idea of you to dress up his war souvenier, but this one seems to be above and beyond all that. I am skeptical that it was actually carried by an officer in the German Arny in this condition, but we'll see what those more learned than I have to say on the matter.
dju

TheRomanhistorian 02-26-2012 11:48 PM

Well, very fascinating piece. I don't know if I've ever seen such a pretty weapon issued to an officer but it is an interesting looking pistol, if nothing else.

lugerholsterrepair 02-26-2012 11:52 PM

I agree with David..A nice professional engraved pistol. The engraving is certainly German in style.

The finish is spectacular as well..even with the original straw.

Is there anything else with your Grandfathers pistol. A holster. box..Papers? Photographs?

Tango2020 02-27-2012 12:06 AM

Only the pistol and holster with 2 mags.

Why would there be no serial numbers on the gun!

The story I have heard was that there were some made for hitlers higher up generals that were void of serial numbers but I haven't seen anything on this site to coralate with thy story.

CavScoutEurope 02-27-2012 06:38 AM

Can we get photos of the holster? Are the mags numbered? Have you disassembled the weapon?

alanint 02-27-2012 07:10 AM

I'm guessing this was made post war by Mauser gunsmiths for a soldier in the occupying forces. Occupation GIs had access to the Mauser factory and this was probably made for someone who could afford the work.

Tango2020 02-27-2012 08:07 AM

I have not disassembled it yet. I didn't want to go too far with it if it has great value because I didn't know it taking it down and a good cleaning would degrade the value.

I'll post more pictures when I get home tonight.

mrerick 02-27-2012 10:39 AM

It is certainly exceptional engraving work and coverage. Safety bar numbered in the military style, but take down lever not.

If it's a 9mm pistol, I think it's most likely a war trophy that got the engraving in Germany then returned with the vet. If it's in .30 Luger, it could be a DWM commercial that got a full engraving treatment here before 1968 (after which serial numbers were required on guns - the engraving could have obliterated what was there). In that case, the safety bar could be a replacement from a military pistol.

I can't see that a proper dis-assembly, cleaning, and lubrication with corrosion preventing gun oil would degrade the value. Just be careful with it if you do it yourself (there are instructions available on this site). Pay particular care with grip removal, and don't gall the grip screws with the wrong screwdriver blade.

Marc

Tango2020 02-27-2012 11:26 AM

I don't have the gun here to look at but I think the take down leaver does have 44 on it also but is on the bottom and inconspicuous. It is a 9mm.

sheepherder 02-27-2012 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Smith (Post 208509)
IMO, it's a presentation piece. Made as an award / reward. The engraving is top quality and certainly does look period, and German.

Ron


...I agree with Ron... :)

Ron Smith 02-27-2012 03:37 PM

IMO, it's a presentation piece. Made as an award / reward. The engraving is top quality and certainly does look period, and German.

Ron

rhuff 02-27-2012 05:15 PM

It appears to be beautifully done and it is a striking piece. I really like it, and I don't usually care for engraved Lugers. I have a place in my safe where that one would fit quite nicely. A family heirloom.

Hugo Borchardt 02-27-2012 05:21 PM

Very nice. I, too, am generally turned off by engraved lugers, but this one looks like a very beautiful special presentation piece.

sheepherder 02-27-2012 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Tango2020 (Post 208457)
I'm trying to figure out how to do that. Seems I dont have the athoriti.

I believe you have to have a minimum number of posts. Keep posting, and when you get the 'authority' to post here, replace your links with Lugerforum-posted pics. Others here are behind corporate firewalls that block Flickr, PhotoBucket, SmugMug, YouTube, etc...but I'm sure they would want the pics preserved here...

Tango2020 02-27-2012 06:05 PM

Thanks postino. Think I have it fixed now.

c3006 02-27-2012 06:18 PM

That is a great looking pistol. Shame there's not more provenance . As far as value it's going to be whatever someone will pay,no way to set a value I could see.


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