Anybody seen this- New In Box 1918?
 

http://www.gunsamerica.com//95684622..._1918.htm?wl=1

It looks fantastic. It is in a box. It has, most definitely, been fired (a lot).

Comments anyone?

-ML

The box is not original and the gun rises some suspicion concerning its finish. But, most of all, there aren't Commercial Lugers dated 1918.

Just my two cents.
Douglas.

The box was provided by a well-known gun dealer in Buenos Aires, Argentina, which no longer exists.

Someone just stuck a questionable 1918 military Luger in it...

The seller contacted me a week ago with this offer, and I told him that it appears to be a used WW1 Luger stuffed inside of a Webley box, probably worthy around $1200. But he insists...Anyway, it will be interesting to watch it play out. With someone else's money of course...
dju

For one reason or another, access to gunsamerica.com is blocked off in the Netherlands.
Does anyone have a contact email for GA, I'm curious why it is being blocked, as this is not a common thing over here. Other gun related and auction sites are available without problems.

David is spot on..$1200 pistol and the box costs $16,800

The seller is a lunitic who has not done his homework. Sort of sad when people do this..but I have found that once they somehow determine the thing is worth $18,000 they just can't come back to reality no matter how many facts you show them.

Vlim,

If it helps, the gun is a 1918 DWM, Serial# 9137m. Maybe in a database somewhere.

I knew when I saw this it was probably bogus. (thanks to my continued education here on the forum).

-ML

Despite all the probable hype on the part of the seller, this 1918 luger looks pretty pristine. I don't even seen blue wear on the right frame rail nor either side of the muzzle. Could this luger have somehow ended up in Argentina as a commercial sales item after WW1 maybe without even being issued aa a military gun? Just speculation!

Nope. Argentina has welcomed Germans of all sorts of persuasions since the end of WW1. One of the best Luger collections I have ever seen was displayed in the window of a gun shop called "El Ciervo" in Buenos Aires. The store had about 15 rare nazi presentation guns from a number of second tier nazi luminaries at that time.
This was most likely brought to Argentina by a German owner post WW1, along with hundreds of others who were escaping a devastated post war Germany.

Which brings a question to mind: After WWI many military Lugers were chosen for their outstanding condition, some possibly unissued, to be sent to the USA for commercial sales. These were stamped "Germany" and the original military markings were left untouched. I think it would be quite correct to classify these as "commercial" pistols", or possibly "military/commercial" variations. Does anyone agree with me that such Lugers deserve a classification of their own?

They may deserve a classification of thier own but to the ATF they would still be considered military surplus. At least that is my understanding of it. From dealing with them when I was importing my firearms home from Germany they basically told me that if it was once issued by a nations military it will always be considered military surplus.

I'd pay $300 for the box!

Clark