LugerForum Discussion Forums - P-38 Safe and Fire labels, German language equivalent? Gesichert

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http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthread.php?p=202719

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Originally Posted by Xerato (Post 202716)

Why is it that on the Luger, the German word for "Safe" is "Gesichert", thus starting with a "G".
But on the P-38, the safety lever is labeled with "S" and "F", even though written for Germans?
Was it a coincidence that the German word equivalents of "Safe" and "Fire" also happened to start with 'S' and 'F' like the English words? Why not 'G' for Gesichert as was shown on the Luger?

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Originally Posted by alanint (Post 202719)

Good question on the safety markings. I think mainly because there is no enough flat surface on a P38 to write out Gesichert and "S" and "F" work just fine.

I'm sure our German linguists will comment, but I also think "Gesichert" was an archaic word meaning "Made safe" or "To make Safe" where simply "safe" would do.

According to Google Translate: (and we all know how reliable those computer-translators can be :( )

The Luger's Gesichert means 'Secured'

I looked up German translations for 'Fire', 'shoot', and 'safe' but there are so many possible nouns and adjectives for German translation I can't tell which one would be expected use in this context.

Playing around on the translator, I see it could have been worse:
One possible translation for "Fire" or "Shoot" could be the German word "schießen".
One possible word for "Safe" or "secure" could have been "festmachen" or "Fest"
Imagine the confusion that would have caused to us Americans if the Germans had used those words, thus the 'S' label would actually the firing position! and vice-versa! :D

Maybe someone who speaks both German and English can shed some light on this?