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Michael Zeleny 09-27-2011 11:56 AM

Strange lP08
 
I took some pictures of strange features on a 1917 lP08 SN 758g. I cannot interpret the backstrap marking: "III.221.116". Nor do I understand the meaning of the cut in the top of the well-fitting sideplate numbered in a slightly different font. Can anyone comment on these traits?

Ron Wood 09-27-2011 12:09 PM

The side plate is cut for a sear safety.

Michael Zeleny 09-27-2011 12:15 PM

Thank you, Ron. That was a brain fart on my part. Any guesses on the meaning of this modification appearing on an Artillery Luger not otherwise adapted for the Schiwy safety?

George Anderson 09-27-2011 12:28 PM

It might be III Battalion, 221st Reserve Infantry Regiment, weapon 116. It could also be a Reichswehr Provional mark or a police marking. It's probably not police. I would bet on my first guess.

ithacaartist 09-27-2011 02:16 PM

Michael, you mentioned that the sideplate also displayed a slightly different font. A guess one might hazard is that it has been changed out, using a sideplate from a police gun. This could explain both situations.
David Parker

Michael Zeleny 09-27-2011 02:21 PM

The difference is too slight for certainty:
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...77554930_n.jpg
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...92084566_n.jpg

alanint 09-27-2011 02:29 PM

Considering that the production periods of the LP08 and the Police modification do not coincide, is there any indication of a depot or arsenal rebuild stamp on the gun?

George Anderson 09-27-2011 03:19 PM

Look at the interior of the side plate. If it was made and numbered for a 1917 artillery the partial serial number will be found on the bottum interior edge of the plate. Tell us what you find. Be aware that these internal numbers are very difficult to see.

Michael Zeleny 09-27-2011 06:25 PM

There is nothing inside the sideplate, except for the obliquely stamped number 6 seen in this photo.

wlyon 09-27-2011 09:39 PM

George
Could you show where these numbers should be. I have an all matching 1917 artillery and do not see any numbers even under magnification. Thanks Bill

George Anderson 09-28-2011 10:41 AM

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Bill, the side plate pictured is from 1917 LP08 serial number 6586b. As you can see the interior of the side plate is numbered 65 on the lower edge. This pattern is only found on Imperial military DWM Parabellums after 1911.

wlyon 09-28-2011 11:38 AM

Thanks George. Appreciate the info. Mine does have a small 3 for serial # 318a. To much to learn and to little time. Thanks Bill

George Anderson 09-28-2011 12:06 PM

Bill, the collecting world can sometimes be an evil place. Knowledge is armor.


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