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maximis026986 09-16-2011 02:27 AM

1941 Mauser(Byf) Luger P08*War trophy*
 
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The grips is the symbol is that of the U.S. Seventh Army, which was in the European theater. Stock lug was ground off because the firearms act back in the 1950s im guessing. The maker of the holster, it is Karl Barth, located in the city of Waldbrohl, Germany. (Thanks to research by Danny of the firearmforums)
Can anyone give me a value for insurance? an Sale?

maximis026986 09-16-2011 02:27 AM

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Edward Tinker 09-16-2011 09:23 AM

Nice, a nice but sad gun because of the stock lug.

This is a luger made in 1941 (41) with code name of byf (Mauser).

The grips help for a collector who likes this kind of thing, but to the average collector, that is a detractor and then the ground stock lug knocks it down to shooter status to many folks.

So, lets go low and high values (say I was buying it for my table and you were selling it)

2 matching mags, wow, they look real

ok, low value, gun $550, 2 matching mags, add $300, holster (if not cut down or other modifications) $150, tool $40 = $1040

high value, you push the 2 matching mags, unusual / rarer for a army, so $800, 2 mags, add $300, $200 for WW2 holster, tool and ammo, another $75 (if tool is marked, say eagle 655 or eagle 63 add $25) = $1375

Insurance $1500-$1600

If the stock lug had not been ground you could double the price, but having it fixed would not make it collectable, per-se, and would cost probably around $500 to do...

my 2 cents

And, is this a family gun? If any family member is known, I would be interested for my vol III

Ed

DavidJayUden 09-16-2011 09:28 AM

Are the grips ivory?
A unique item to be sure. It's a shame about that stock lug.
Let's see what the advanced colllectors have to say on this one.
dju

maximis026986 09-16-2011 12:25 PM

response
 
This was a luger passed to me from my grandma's friend. Her husband was in WW2 im positive of it, I knew him when I was a kid. He died a few years back and she had no one to give it to. When I got out of the military she gave it to me as a present. Thanks for the info guys! I also have a artillery luger I just posted in the forums, you should have a look at that too. That was passed to me by my grandfather, but I know it has some issues.

maximis026986 09-16-2011 12:29 PM

I do not know if the grips are ivory

spartacus38 09-16-2011 12:56 PM

I think Ed is right on with his estimate of value,too bad about the stock lug.
Bob

MikeP 09-16-2011 03:16 PM

Never know what will still pop up.
I remember some thinking that had to grind the lug.

Interestig piece.
Good assessment.

maximis026986 09-24-2011 09:32 PM

thanks everyone for the help!

Bluff Lake 36 09-24-2011 09:57 PM

Luger
 
P.M. Sent

maximis026986 09-25-2011 10:26 PM

Bluff I sent you an email

maximis026986 01-22-2013 04:18 AM

Any other opinions on value?

MikeP 01-22-2013 08:42 AM

The issue is the lug .
Never was a law,but some believed it.
2 matched mags is really rare .
If ivory the grips have value .
You have a unique piece with a major flaw.
Money is tight.
I think a fair assessment has been made .

ithacaartist 01-22-2013 11:18 AM

Testing for Ivory
 
A quick, easy way to ascertain if a grip is ivory: Heat a pin or needle tip red hot. Poke the grip with the hot tip, in an out-of-the-way place where the tiny mark will not be an issue. If the grip material melts, it's plastic or Franzite, or maybe even urethane. If it does not melt, and perhaps smells like burning hair, it's the real deal--ivory.

John Sabato 01-22-2013 01:47 PM

Looks like Ivory grips to me... and very well fitted too.

lugerholsterrepair 01-22-2013 01:58 PM

NOT ivory IMO. Elephant ivory has grain and shows up more over the years. These show NO grain whatever, Guranteed they are not ivory.


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