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corvair 05-19-2011 11:17 PM

New to Lugers
 
Hi Everyone,

My Dad gave me his Luger that he got in Germany or (France?) during WW2. He is alive and well. I'm begining to reserch it. It's a DWM, all nembers match except the clip. I'm not a gun expert, infact I've never even fired a gun.:eek: It is in nice shape, but not mint. Also has a hoster in nice shape too. No tears or defects. Stitching good.

I'm trying to find out what I can about it. Year made, value and anything else of historical interest. I have no plans of selling it or firing it.

I'm having problems finding marks for the year and other information. I partily took it apart, found a letters and or numbers "inside" The paper I wrote them down went AWOL. The next time I disasemble it I need to look some other places as well.

I will be looking in this forum and elsewhere for information.

My area of expertise are Corvairs. I also made a grandfather type clock which I made the gears and movement out of wood. Runs and keeps good time.

Dan
65 Corvair convertible

lugerholsterrepair 05-20-2011 12:05 AM

Dan, There will be some markings on the outside..look it over and tell what they are. Is there a date over the chamber? Crown N anywhere? Numbers? Might be hidden on the underside if commercial.

Markings on bottom of mag? Wood mag or alum?

Holster markings..?

Edward Tinker 05-20-2011 06:26 AM

Dan, welcome to the forum.

As Jerry said, there are likely some markings on it that can help us. DWM is the manufacturer, and on the front of the frame will be a serial number, probably with a letter (suffix) under it.

At a minimum, pictures, posted here on the forum, left side, right side (full of each) top and front of frame can help you a lot.

If your dad knows any story on it, I am collecting stories for vol III, shoot me an email; I always give full credit to the author / owner of the gun or equipment.

Ed

corvair 05-21-2011 10:58 PM

Hello again,

I dissasembled (mostly) my DWM Luger again. The full serial number appears only once, on the front frame. No year or letter with it. The barrel has nothing other than the witness marks. They line up perfectly. Under the barrel on the body where most guns have marking, there is nothing. The metal looks hand finished, but the blueing matches the rest of the gun.

The handle is Walnut. As a wood worker, I'm very impressed with the inside of the handle. Not just flat. Lots of marks. "78" matches the serial number. The right side has an F, J, K, O, T, S and perhaps a V. The left has the "78" and a D? and an X.

The base of the mag is wood. It is not numbers matching.

I did take pictures. Most turned out well. Now to figure out how to post and which ones to post. I'm going to my local library to see if they have any books.

Also the hoster says: Kern Klager & Cle. The next line looks like there was year stamp? Can't make out any, the one on the far right may be a 5. The last line starts with an N. Ends with an m. The middle letters are unreadable. I think it may be the city where it was made. I should be able that figure out.

One question about DWN. They were bought out by another gun company after WWI if I remember correctly. After they were under new ownership, did the DWM mark appear on any Lugers?

Thanks again,

Dan

corvair 05-21-2011 11:09 PM

Me again,

The holster was made in Neu-Ulm, Germany.

Dan

Norme 05-21-2011 11:09 PM

Hi Dan, If it helps any, your holster was made by Kern Kläger & Cie, Neu-Ulm. We'll need photos to tell you any more than that. Regards, Norm

MFC 05-22-2011 01:57 AM

Hi Dan,
DWM changed there name to BKIW in 1922. The DWM logo was still used when Luger production was moved to Mauser in 1930. Mauser continued to use DWM parts which included toggles with the DWM logo until 1936.

corvair 05-23-2011 12:14 PM

For some reason I'm not able to download photos in to my computer right now. Will post a few when I figure it out.

The barrel and the part that the barrel screws into have no marks. None. Could these parts have been replaced for some reason. Replaced with new parts, not from other lugars. Would German replacement parts in the day have any marks on them? It must have been fairly new as the wooden handles are in very nice shape and their numbers match.
had the barrel wore out, the handles would show wear.

I new to find a nice diagram of all of the parts names.


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