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sheepherder 05-15-2011 08:46 AM

Navy Luger Carbine on RIAC
 
This is interesting... :p

Custom DWM Luger Style Carbine with Shoulder Stock and Leather Carrying Case

http://www.rockislandauction.com/vie...id/52/lid/3453

These 1920 Navy carbines are somewhat of a rarity as they were usually produced or assembled on special order only and were fabricated or assembled using surplus WWI Luger parts. Since there were so many standard 1920 Artillery and carbine models readily available from DMW at this time, not many Navy models were actually produced, with some of these longer barrels pistols actually were assembled in the United States by the importing retailers such as Bannerman's.

Estimated Price: $3,500 - $5,500

http://www.rockislandauction.com/pho...262-K-F1-H.jpg

The low estimated price caught my attention...but looking at the pics, it's pretty obvious it's not a kosher Luger carbine... :thumbup:

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alanint 05-15-2011 10:23 AM

How can they ask that when they can't even get the wood to remotely match?

lugerholsterrepair 05-15-2011 10:55 AM

Rich, An interesting offering..The description is in great detail but contains fabrications.
The carrying case is NOT leather but a painted/rubberized canvas.

cirelaw 05-15-2011 02:14 PM

Its an interesting gun although its like an ex-wife, hard to sell and maybe stuck with forever! I've noticed recently more carbine are appearing. Has anyone ever fired a 1920 9mm model?? Mine is still a virgin as far as I could tell or hope for that matter!
What does a virgin luger look like?

hgreer2 05-17-2011 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by postino (Post 195022)
This is interesting... :p

Custom DWM Luger Style Carbine with Shoulder Stock and Leather Carrying Case

http://www.rockislandauction.com/vie...id/52/lid/3453

These 1920 Navy carbines are somewhat of a rarity as they were usually produced or assembled on special order only and were fabricated or assembled using surplus WWI Luger parts. Since there were so many standard 1920 Artillery and carbine models readily available from DMW at this time, not many Navy models were actually produced, with some of these longer barrels pistols actually were assembled in the United States by the importing retailers such as Bannerman's.

Estimated Price: $3,500 - $5,500

http://www.rockislandauction.com/pho...262-K-F1-H.jpg

The low estimated price caught my attention...but looking at the pics, it's pretty obvious it's not a kosher Luger carbine... :thumbup:

(Click on image to isolate; then right-click & 'View Image' for large image link)

What does a kosher 1920 carbine look like ?

Harry

George Anderson 05-17-2011 05:46 PM

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The ad actually says alot that is true about these pistols.

Harry here is a real 1920. It's serial number 71.

hgreer2 05-17-2011 05:50 PM

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Nice gun George. What makes this a 1920 carbine and who made it ? I would like to see a closeup of this area, it looks as if the original cartouche has been ground off. Is that a Jerry Burney case ?

Harry

cirelaw 05-17-2011 06:18 PM

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Sweet can You remove your grip to find your whole number. I thought for years my serial number was 31 appear everywhere then I removed the grip and found the 4 digit with a letter. George did you say you had a legit 1920 carbine can you share ' hush' the suffix and serial number,. I'm in love with them!

George Anderson 05-17-2011 06:22 PM

What do you mean by cartouche? 1920's were simply carbines made up after the war for the American market. Some may have been fabricated in the States others in Germany. I feel that this is one that was put together in Germany. I have another here that may be American manufacture.

I have owned one 1902 and have another in my keeping right now. If I wanted a carbine for my collection it would be a 1902. The blood lines of all 1920's is problematic to my thinking.

hgreer2 05-17-2011 06:46 PM

Who did DWM manufacture the gun for originally ? We part company on our likes and dislikes, I much prefer the unusual to the original, everyones "02 looks like everyone elses "02. If I were buying guns for an investment, I would buy the original also, but I'm buying my guns for the pleasure of owning them and to me the 1920's are far more interesting, try to determine what, where, when and why. If you ever decide to sell your's let me know, I'm a serious player, no tire kicker.

Harry

lugerholsterrepair 05-17-2011 06:48 PM

Harry, No..that is not one of my cases.

hgreer2 05-17-2011 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by lugerholsterrepair (Post 195228)
Harry, No..that is not one of my cases.

Jerry, am I mistaken or is that case a A&F design or did they borrow it ?

Thanks,
Harry

George Anderson 05-17-2011 07:15 PM

Harry, this carbine belonged to Tom Armstrong and it is for sale.

lugerholsterrepair 05-17-2011 07:22 PM

Harry..is that case a A&F design or did they borrow it ?


Carbine cases were commercial and many entities made them, German and American, others for all I know. The design is pretty basic...only so many ways to make them.

Beautiful Carbine George!

hgreer2 05-17-2011 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by George Anderson (Post 195236)
Harry, this carbine belonged to Tom Armstrong and it is for sale.

Hey George, check your PM"s

Harry

cirelaw 05-17-2011 08:42 PM

What differences are there between the commercial version and the naval pieces. Do we have a serial range table to find if a particular example falls within a correct set, Something like Ron has provided us!! Like a DWM serial table!! I would like to know what range does the 1920 Carbine was produced! The Swiss were easy, To late to learn from them!!

George Anderson 05-17-2011 09:04 PM

I have seen many Carbine cases and most were made for the retailer and not by a DWM jobber.

cirelaw 05-17-2011 09:30 PM

Why Go Elsewhere When We Have The Finest
 
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Jerrys' problem, He is to modest!

command450 06-30-2011 07:19 PM

Theres nothing more classy than a carbine luger......especially with a original carry case.:thumbup:


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