Aaron's First Erfurt
 

The weekend before last I found and bought my first Erfurt at a little gun show in Arizona. It is dated 1917, 99.9% finish, completely mint inside, with two matching magazines, also in mint condition. All this came in a superb light brown 1918 holster stamped on back Kernklager & Cie, 1918, Neu-Ulm, above a crown over L, and clearly stamped inside flap is â??B.A.XIâ?�. The grips looked so new I had to take them off before buying the piece to convince myself they were original, and I found them to be crisply stamped with Erfurt proofs and matching numbers. I didn't steal it, but it was a very fair price, especially since I understand minty Erfurts are very scarce, let alone with two matching mags. Just thought I share my pleasure with you all.






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Re: Aaron's First Erfurt
 

Sounds almost too good to be true! I would expect the high point on the sideplate to show a little more wear compensurate with the left rail wear. The grips are really nice! It appears that the left grip back pulls away from the frame a little. I dont have any Erfurts so I dont know if this is normal, but I doubt it. REally hard to evaluate from a picture. What does the safety paint look like? Getting it with a nice vintage holster is a real coupe. The two matching magazines are almost unheard of. Congrats! I must say the holster is gorgeous! ~Thor~

Re: Aaron's First Erfurt
 

Thor is right about that! Pretty Erfurt. And you don't see them as often as a Mauser or DWM, that is for sure.


Ed

Re: Aaron's First Erfurt
 

Congratulations! It looks great. Tell the truth. Will you shoot it?

Re: Aaron's First Erfurt
 

Aaron; FABULOUS!!


Lonnie

Re: Just what little show?
 

What AZ show did you get this at? Looks like a nice one slipped by me....

Bob

Re: Aaron's First Erfurt
 

Obviously Luger Forum Main Page Material, that is assuming you can submit it with a good history of Erfurt Lugers to Dok! Really outstanding photo! ~Thor~

Re: Aaron's First Erfurt
 

ok aaron, give me the goods..how much? it looks great. hope i can find one as nice.

Re: Aaron's First Erfurt
 

VERRRRY NICE AARON!!!!!!!!! I LOVE ERFURTS, ESPECIALLY IN THAT CONDITION!


TIM

Re: Aaron's First Erfurt
 

No, I will never shoot it! I can barely bring myself to handle it! The show was in Yuma, and the next show there is March 9-10. Cost was $1,400. Amazing how such a well preserved piece can turn up for sale in the hands of a non-collector.

Really Nice Aaron! What a great find!
 

and I don't think you paid too much either...


regards,


John

Re: Aaron's First Erfurt
 

Beautiful, Aaron, even a cheapskate like me would be tempted at that price

Re: Aaron's First Erfurt
 

Hi,

Looks like a very nice Erfurt. The magazines are the most important part of a complete rig in my opinion. The connecting pins are usually blue on these Imperial magazines. The numbers on the bases should be exactly the same and show some wear and age, scrapes and scratches. The added value comes from the two matching magazines which are the easiest to manipulate. Your rig looks nice. Congratulations.

Re: Aaron's First Erfurt (EOM)
 

Re: Aaron's First Erfurt
 

Well gentlemen, I must admit that, even for a ranking amateur in Luger collecting, that Erfurt picture made me an instant adept!

By the way, some of you seem to prefer Erfurts to some other ones; is it because of their rarity or some other characteristics?

I would like to know your feelings on this one:

Lately, while visiting a friend in Quebec city, he opened one of his monster safes and showed me... a very nice 1917 Erfurt P-08, 85-90% original finish remaining, no scratches, nice clean bore, all matching numbers and original magazine! And I think, but I'm not sure, there were some British proof marks on it.

I do not know if he has the holster or another magazine but I happily complimented him for his find.

He told me that he bought it long ago, never had the time to take it to the range (he has too many guns!)and that he was considering selling it. He also told me that he would part with it for $350 (Canadian!).

Well, you guessed it, I put a big option on it verrry fast!

Now, if some of you could tell me more on these pistols, it would be very nice of you.

P.F.

Re: Aaron's First Erfurt
 

Hi Aaron,


Well done - that's a crisp Luger


Best regards,


Kyrie

Frozen North prices
 

C$350 seems to be about the going price up there...I am told they cannot sell them to another Canuck as the barrel is not [quite] 4 inches long and their new laws outlaw [pun] guns with barrels shorter than 4.1 inches and all .25 and .32 cal. guns....so, all the 4 inch revolvers are history! and the 32-20, 25-20 etc fall into the same bag!


The mounties will want to see import papers before they will allow him to ship, too.


Of course, if the gun is not 'papered', then anything can happen........and, probably will!


The Shadow Knows!

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Re: Frozen North prices
 

Well, all I can say is that at the rate our canadian $ is going, it will be the cheapest Luger in a few months!


On the Kanadian firearms law (C-68) there is a provision for the people owning a prohibited class firearm (such as any pistol with a 4" and less barrel, .32 and .25 calibers, and a host of other firearms), so they can sell these to people having the same "grand-father" rights or, by the same token, buy prohibited firearms from them (!!?!). Yes, a mere 1/16th of an inch can make a weapon a forbidden one... You can't possibly hide a Model 1911 in your pants but a Luger, yes, cant'you?. Er...well, that's about all the reasoning behind that law...

And If somebody wants to sell a pistol or any firearm to another on the other side of the frontier, that is easy: you just fax to your nearest firearms registrar a request for transporting that firearm, stating the day of the transport and the point of entry in the U.S.: after a while they fax you back the papers and that's all. What goes about once you are out of the country do not interest them...

Some "wild and crazy guys" have taken advantage of that quirk to de-register their pistols or prohibited firearms in that way: once you come back in Kanada, you are no longer the owner of the firearm so you won't be required to handover your gun should a confiscation law be passed.

It's beginning to look like "not so Great-Britain" around here.

Keep a watchful eye to the North: it's the antigun legislation test laboratory of North America.


By the way, my question on Erfurt Lugers still holds.