Swiss Luger?
 

What for a Luger I have here? :burnout:

http://www.swissdagger.com/P3091910.JPG
http://www.swissdagger.com/P3091914.JPG

... :eek: ...

I don't know what it is...But I want one!!! :D

Just another example of the diversity of Swiss gunmanship!

postino ,export to the USA would a little bit a problem for this model.

Doc,this one is a real Swiss Army pistol ,not a "gunsmith special".

Is this some sort of hand held firing device like a sleeve gun?

I don't see any rails to add a frame.

Stefan

I believe what you have there is part of a prototype carbine or submachine gun that was developed at the Swiss arsenal at Bern using the Luger Toggle design.

I have previously seen photographs of this complete weapon years ago, but can't remember where. Perhaps in Bobba's book on the history of the Swiss Parabellum.

I don't believe that this gun ever reached bonafide production levels , and that it remained a prototype. A very interesting piece to say the least.

If it is, or may be, part of a submachine gun, how would that affect the legality of its possession in Switzerland?

Hi John,
Right,it`s a smg ,the so called LMG Pistole 41/44.
Less than 10`000 (9`100) were made ,according the WF and Army files.
The first 5400 with Bakelit stocks (replaced with wood stocks if damaged ),the rest with wood stocks.
Only 400 survived,all other were destroyed 1971 and 1975.
My english is not good enough to tell the whole Story but I found a fine website about the LMG Pist.41/44:

http://georgians.weapon.ge/index.php...n=29&cat=&l=en

http://www.swissdagger.com/P3091895.JPG

http://www.swissdagger.com/P3091896.JPG

http://www.swissdagger.com/P3091904.JPG

... :confused: ...That's what the toggle mechanism you first posted goes in???

Yep.:thumbup:

Stephan,

You posted photos of the later model instead of the prototype on the same website. I believe the prototype is the weapon that your part came from:

John,
That`s also not a prototype,that`s the MP 19.
92 guns delivered to the Swiss Army from 1919-1921 ,made by the WF Bern.
62 guns of them destroyed 1962.

What I have is the LMG Pist.41/44 or MP41/44 developed by Rudolf Furrer like the MP19 and LMG 25.

John,
I dont know what you have for books,I have the real thing just here in my hands.
http://www.swissdagger.com/P3101932.JPG
http://www.swissdagger.com/P3101933.JPG

Excellent photographs Stephan. Thanks for sharing this very interesting piece of toggle action history.

Hmm, now it would be nice to build a pistol around that action. Should look stunning :)

John,
Thank you.
Looks like this one is just sold....however,before I send it out I have to make larger "functional testing",be sure that`s a fun.:rolleyes: