LugerForum Discussion Forums

LugerForum Discussion Forums (https://forum.lugerforum.com/index.php)
-   Commercial Lugers (https://forum.lugerforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=123)
-   -   Please help to ID Luger (https://forum.lugerforum.com/showthread.php?t=25660)

mspf 02-21-2011 11:02 PM

Please help to ID Luger
 
8 Attachment(s)
Gentlemen,
This is my first post on your forum. I recently became the owner of a beautiful Luger. I was contacted to see if I wanted the item by an elderly lady who said it was an "ruger". I was shocked when I saw it was actually a LUGER! and in fabulous condition. The woman who had the pistol said it had belonged to her husband who was a Customs Inspector. Inside the holster was a card signed by the Chief of Police in 1929, idenitfying the make, model, serial number and owner, complete with his finger print and date of birth in 1903. Her husband also wrote his name and agency inside the holster.

I am new to the Luger world and I ran it by a Gunsmith friend of mine who advised me it was a .30 caliber, 1920 Commercial Model. I have seen a wide variety commercial models on the internet in various conditions. I would like to nail down the exact model and era of when it was made. Also if anyone would know an approximate value I would be interested in any information that could be had when it comes to this weapon.

Thank you gentlemen.

Regards,
Jay

DavidJayUden 02-21-2011 11:09 PM

Very nice!
dju

mspf 02-21-2011 11:29 PM

1 Attachment(s)
Here are the last few photos that wouldnt load the first time.

MFC 02-21-2011 11:45 PM

Hi Jay,
According to Still's Weimar Lugers, your Luger S#2628o was made in the latter part of 1925. The newer and more correct classification is an Alphabet DWM commercial (formerly 1920 commercial). We're trying to teach old dogs new tricks. Many tens of thousands were exported to the US in the 20's. C/N stamps are commercial firing proofs. 'GERMANY' stamped under the S# is an export stamp and is the country of origin, which complies with US law. The holster is military.

mspf 02-21-2011 11:45 PM

2 Attachment(s)
Last few photos.

mspf 02-21-2011 11:49 PM

Mike C,
Thank you Sir for the information! I'm fascinated with this weapon and its history!

Lugerdoc 02-22-2011 09:24 AM

Your 1926 dtd military holster is certinly scarcer than the luger, even with the name written inside. TH

mspf 02-22-2011 11:46 AM

Thanks LugerDoc,
What makes the holster so rare? I recently, quite by accident, found two P38 holsters for my father in laws Nazi stamped P38. One just like the brown leather one that came with my luger and a softer black leather holster. Are they on the rare side as well?

Thank you!

lugerholsterrepair 02-22-2011 12:23 PM

Jay..What makes the holster so rare?

It isn't. I think what Tom is saying is that Alphabet .30 Lugers are fairly common. Military holsters aren't even scarce really. On any given day you will find hundreds of them for sale on eBay. They tend to be a tad expensive but they are certainly available.

wlyon 02-22-2011 01:40 PM

It looks like Tom thought the holster was 1926 instead of 1936.Military holsters in the 20's are harder to come by. Bill

mrerick 02-22-2011 01:44 PM

Jay,

You're looking at a particularly nice DWM Alphabet Commercial Luger that looks like it's in it's original finish.

Combined with the holster and provenance, it's a desirable rig.

Collectors don't value the commercial pistols as much as military pistols.

Did you acquire it? Are you looking for valuation?

Marc

mspf 02-22-2011 02:29 PM

Thank you for all the replies and helping me get up to speed on this luger. I appreciate all your knowledge and expirience with these items. I would be interested in an approximate value if one could be found. The pistol is in great shape and was stored quite well. All original parts and finish. No pitting or rust.

Once again, thank you for all the help!

Semper Fi,
Jay

lugerholsterrepair 02-22-2011 03:08 PM

Bill, I re-read Tom's post and that's it exactly! Tom thought 1926 and yes..that would be scarce if not rare!

Thanks Bill...


Jay, I would peg your pistol at around $750-850 IF it is all matching inside and out. It would come in a tad higher but for some condition issues. Bluing rubbed here and there. Hard to do a real estimate from such limited photo's but these .30 Commercials are less desirable than 9MM Militaries.
The holster is right around $300-350 depending. That's if further photo's don't reveal some $$ killing problem.

mspf 02-22-2011 06:15 PM

Thank you Mr. Burney. It does have a few wear marks on the slide. Still great condition!

Edward Tinker 02-22-2011 08:33 PM

Yes it is a very nice commercial luger. I think $800-$900 is about right, retail, plus or minus a bit.

The holster appears to be a nice one.

And yes, 1926 holsters are fairly rare, I have 2 and have only seen 7 or 8 myself (3 with the same collector).

Ed

Lugerdoc 02-23-2011 09:33 AM

mspf, Most luger holster made in the 1920s were for the police; very few for the military, since they had a lot of surplus ones from WW1. TH

mspf 02-24-2011 08:31 PM

Thank you Mr Tinker and Luger Doc. I had no idea the holsters had their own history and could be so valuable.


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:04 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 1998 - 2025, Lugerforum.com