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sheepherder 02-21-2011 10:48 AM

Whose Catalog Is This???
 
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Browsing eBay for...something...and I noticed several (like a dozen or so) sellers hawking individual pages of an old catalog...I saved the 'enlarge' image because it showed the relative size & shapes of Old Style Luger parts vs New Style...

...then I noticed the "America's Great Gun House" and "Everything In Guns Under One Cover"...with Lugers on page 359 (!)...

So...What catalog is this from???

The oldest Numrich catalog I have is #10, from sometime in the 70's...and this is not from Numrich... :p

alanint 02-21-2011 11:00 AM

It might be a Bannerman catalogue.

http://www.cornellpubs.com/old-guns/...-bannerman.php

Ron Wood 02-21-2011 11:49 AM

"Everything In Guns Under One Cover" sounds like Stoeger.

Vlim 02-21-2011 12:08 PM

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If you reverse the image, you can make out a very faint 'Stoeger' and 'N.Y.' on the other page.

At the bottom you can read 'YOU FIND WHAT YOU WANT AT STOEGER's'.

Eat your heart out, CSI :D

Ron Wood 02-21-2011 12:17 PM

No fair! I had to use my failing memory and you used your smarts.:)

Vlim 02-21-2011 12:21 PM

At least you got it right :)

sheepherder 02-21-2011 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vlim (Post 190563)
If you reverse the image, you can make out a very faint 'Stoeger' and 'N.Y.' on the other page.

At the bottom you can read 'YOU FIND WHAT YOU WANT AT STOEGER's'.

Eat your heart out, CSI :D

Hmph...That's very impressive... :cheers:

I never thought of mirroring it...Looks like a MAB on the next page...

Alanint was correct, too - Cornell Pubs lists several digitally enhanced reprints of old Stoeger catalogs...Fairly cheap...512 pages in the 1939 World's Fair special edition reprint...$32.95...I think I may order one... ;)

Thank you all for your help!!! :D

Ice 02-21-2011 03:07 PM

I have a copy of the 1939 Stoeger catalog. Enough eye candy in there to last for a long time.

Charlie

pitsword 02-21-2011 03:31 PM

Stoeger was or is the exclusive owner of the name "Luger", if I remember correctly. Is that still the case, is Stoeger an active company?
pitsword

Vlim 02-21-2011 04:54 PM

Ah, the virtues of internet:

Word Mark LUGER
Goods and Services IC 013. US 009. G & S: [ SHOTGUNS, ] PISTOLS [ , REVOLVERS, RIFLES, ] AND PARTS THEREOF. FIRST USE: 18950201. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 18950201
Mark Drawing Code (1) TYPED DRAWING
Serial Number 71290722
Filing Date October 5, 1929
Current Filing Basis 1A
Original Filing Basis 1A
Change In Registration CHANGE IN REGISTRATION HAS OCCURRED
Registration Number 0269834
Registration Date April 22, 1930
Owner (REGISTRANT) A.F. STOEGER, INC. CORPORATION NEW YORK 509 FIFTH AVENUE NEW YORK CITY NEW YORK
(LAST LISTED OWNER) STOEGER, INC. CORPORATION BY CHANGE OF NAME NEW YORK 17601 Indian Head Highway Accokeek MARYLAND 20607

Assignment Recorded ASSIGNMENT RECORDED
Attorney of Record Peter L. Costas, Esq.
Type of Mark TRADEMARK
Register PRINCIPAL
Affidavit Text SECT 12C. SECT 15. SECTION 8(10-YR) 20100428.
Renewal 5TH RENEWAL 20100428
Live/Dead Indicator LIVE

mrerick 02-21-2011 08:08 PM

From Cornell's website, it looks like Stoeger now belongs to Beretta:

"Stoeger: A History of Affordable Quality Firearms"

In the 1990s, the Stoeger company was purchased by Finnish rifle manufacturer Sako. In 2000, Sako was acquired by Beretta Holding S.p.A. At that time, Stoeger Industries was placed under the ownership of Benelli USA, where it remains today as a member of the Benelli USA family of companies. The technology and expertise of Benelli USA are integral to Stoeger's manufacturing processes. And all Stoeger products enjoy a solid reputation for affordable quality."


In the USA, a registered trademark can be owned and used forever:

"Unlike other forms of intellectual property (e.g., patents and copyrights) a registered trademark can, theoretically, last forever. So long as a trademark's use is continuous a trademark holder may keep the mark registered with the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office by filing Section 8 Affidavit(s) of Continuous Use as well as Section 9 Applications for renewal, as required."

The key is that the trademark must be used in trade continuously, and it's registration must be affirmed every 5 years.

But.... has the trademark "Luger" been used associated with a firearm by Stoeger or it's owners within the last 5 years?

They continue to affirm their registration per the USPTO record Gerban found...

I wonder when we'll be able to buy a new one??????

Marc


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