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mikesmilth 02-09-2011 01:14 AM

RARE dwm german luger..
 
.. supposedly. Would like to know its value, or any history at all. As i am told, it is supposed to be very rare.. serial #9701. has all matching parts, and has the#01 all over it. Currently has decorative pearl grips so we dont handle the original wood grips.


History: I was told my grandpa got it off a dead officers body... and thats about all i know on it... would REALLY love to know about this gun, any help??
THANK YOU THANK YOU!


http://tinypic.com/r/vzeyd0/7
DWM on breech

http://tinypic.com/r/343rker/7
showing the serial # 01

http://tinypic.com/r/2cdzfk6/7
more pics of serial #01

http://tinypic.com/r/jv6dc3/7
any idea what the marking is above germany??

http://tinypic.com/r/30mpz69/7
pic of the safety

http://tinypic.com/r/2ymveaq/7
i just laid the wood grip over the pearl grip to show what it originally looks like

http://tinypic.com/r/34qmgrs/7
under the pistol

MFC 02-09-2011 01:38 AM

Hi Mike,
You need to show a photo of the serial# and suffix under it on the front of the frame, which will determine the year it was manufactured. It is most likely classified as an Alphabet DWM commercial (formerly 1920 commercial). There were many tens of thousands exported to the US in the 20's. Probably 30 cal. The GERMANY stamp is an export stamp indicating the country of origin, per US law. The 'Crown over N' stamp above the export stamp is a commercial firing proof. It has been buffed, polished, and reblued, so it's value is deminished quite a bit.
PS. You'll get more responses if you post your photos here on the forum.

mikesmilth 02-09-2011 02:08 AM

thank you very much, have been trying to get some info on this gun for a while. i have searched this gun all over but cannot find a suffix on it.. maybe i have bad eyes, but i will be sure to take more pics, and sadly yes it has been reblued. I have tried putting the pics on here, but can only get the url to the photo..

but thanks n e way!

alanint 02-09-2011 07:33 AM

From what I can see in the photo the suffix is an "O". As Mike pointed out, it is a fairly common Alphabet Commercial gun that has been heavily buffed and reblued.
It is not unusual for family "lore" to embellish an heirloom over the years. The "Germany" stamp indicates that this gun was sold into the US, so it is highly unlikely that this was taken off a German officer. Being a commercial and not a military gun would tend to reenforce this.
It is what it is, a nice shooter passed down from your Granpa to you. Treasure it as a family heirloom.

John Sabato 02-09-2011 12:29 PM

Please get this gun disassembled and get to work on the active rust... or it won't last another couple of generations! Congrats on your inheritance!

mikesmilth 02-09-2011 04:06 PM

thanks for this information. been trying to find out the real story of this gun, or its value, grandma thought it would be worth alot since it supposedly was the first gun of its series....

Don M 02-09-2011 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesmilth (Post 190064)
grandma thought it would be worth alot since it supposedly was the first gun of its series....

Actually, it is the 9,701st of its series.

mrerick 02-09-2011 09:15 PM

You need to check to see if it is a .30 Luger caliber pistol (rather than the larger 9mm Luger caliber).

If a No. 2 pencil just fits into the barrel, it's a .30 Luger caliber pistol.

If it fits real loose, it is likely a 9mm.

Your serial number is "9701O" which puts this DWM alphabet commercial manufacture date around 1924.

Marc

MFC 02-09-2011 11:45 PM

According to Jan Still's Weimar Lugers, and assuming an even production rate, it was made early 1926.


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