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timn 01-19-2011 11:29 AM

AE work hardened??
 
Hello all.
My name is Tim and I'm a new member.
(Isn't this where, as a group, you say "Hello Tim"?:thumbsup:

I do refinish work to the trade. My customers are mostly smiths and shops.

I received a P08 AE that someone had attempted to cold blue on the barrel and receiver.

I have stripped it to white and plan on polishing it out for rust bluing.

I have found this steel to be very hard to work.
A draw file hardly touches it.

I woudn't have thought that the commercial model would have been rushed through like the military did later on.

Am I wrong on this?
There is no evidence of it being case hardened.

Is this typical of the AE?

TIA and I've learned a great deal from this forum. Thanks.

Vlim 01-19-2011 11:36 AM

Hi,

Well, contrary to what many believe, the Parabellum pistol was never a 'rush job'. Some corners were cut when it came to the exterior finishing, you see some rougher and more visible tool marks on the outside, but that's about it.

When the barrel and receiver have been cold blued, I would be careful. Chances are that someone messed with the barrel, and perhaps heated the receiver to get it out, compromising the metal in that area. The barrel should be relatively soft, the receiver was hardened, as were parts of the frame (frame ear ramps).

DWM and Mauser used a flame hardening technique, it wasn't until the 1970s that induction heating was introduced as an alternative.

Hopefully our machine shop wizards can come up wit more detailed info.

ps: "Hello Tim" :D

Edward Tinker 01-19-2011 01:17 PM

Vlim, cold bluing is a non heat invasive metal 'dye', so it does not affect the metal.


Tim, the metal of the receiver is hard as sin...


Ed

sheepherder 01-19-2011 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timn (Post 188735)
I have stripped it to white and plan on polishing it out for rust bluing.

Talk like that makes me wring my hands in despair... :crying:

Vlim 01-19-2011 07:45 PM

Quote:

Vlim, cold bluing is a non heat invasive metal 'dye', so it does not affect the metal.
I know :) but it can be used to mask the results of blowtorch mayhem.

timn 01-20-2011 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by postino (Post 188753)
Talk like that makes me wring my hands in despair... :crying:

Generally, me too.

There is a lot of work that I turn down simply because any work would de-value the piece.

I do this professioally and believe me the AE will be much closer to original than the condition that it came in.


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