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bijj62 10-09-2010 01:28 AM

1915 DWM Shooter or Collector?
 
I have a chance to purchase a 1915 DWM Luger serial number 10xx (no letter) for $1000. All numbers appear to match except magazine. I dont have any pictures but in my opinion I'd guess it at about 65%-70% condiditon. I know without pictures its almost impossible to judge but could it be worth a grand? Also what do the "Imperial" markings look like? THANKS!

Edward Tinker 10-09-2010 05:57 AM

It depends on what your 65-70% is

My 65% is a shooter and worth around $600


But, I have seen other folks that say they have a 95% gun and it has major pitting and bluing loss, so beauty is in the eye of the beholder (and pocketbook)

DavidJayUden 10-09-2010 07:25 AM

It needs to be pretty good to be in the $1000 range. As in all matching except mag, good bluing, functional, not messed with. So the worth on this one will come down to a hands on inspection. Look for re-numbers over the chamber, sear safety bar, unit markings on the grip strap, etc. Take it apart carefully to check internal #s, including grips. Also does it include holster, spare mags, as extras do add value? Undocumented beer stories about it's history do not.
Good pictures to us will help, or study up a bit before you "pays you money".
Good luck;
dju

Curly1 10-09-2010 10:24 AM

Yea pics will let us give you a better idea. But sounds like a shooter and not worth $1000 at least to me it wouldn't.go look on Gunbroker and Auction arms and see what they are asking for a starting bid for one in similar condition.

bijj62 10-09-2010 11:17 AM

Thanks for the response's guys. It is just the gun no holster or spare mag. It had an aluminum bottom mag. I'll see if he will let me take some pictures and post them. The serial number was 1001 and the seller thought that that would add to the value (being somewhat low). It seemed to be in fair shape no pitting or rust but it had quite a bit of bluing loss putting it in the 65% range IMO. Thanks again for the input

whcoyote 10-11-2010 09:47 PM

An aluminum-bottom mag is a WWII mag. A 1915 DWM P.08 should be equipped with a wood-bottom mag, even if the numbers don't match.
Bob

Edward Tinker 10-11-2010 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bijj62 (Post 183870)
... The serial number was 1001 and the seller thought that that would add to the value (being somewhat low). ....

well, its number is actually not low, every 10,000 they started at 1 again, but with a new letter (or suffix), look on the front of the frame. If it has say, a letter f, then its the 70,000+ gun made THAT year....


Ed

DavidJayUden 10-11-2010 10:53 PM

It's funny how a seller can find the most obscure reason to place their gun on some sort of a pedistal. I was buying Colt 1911's at one time and absolutely no one had just a 1911, they were all "special" (more $) because of some scratching on the side...
dju

bijj62 10-12-2010 12:19 PM

This has no letter by ther serial number so does that mean only 1000 were made before it that year? I personally dont think that would have any significance does it? I would imagine I could get it a little cheaper but not sure how much cheaper

whcoyote 10-14-2010 06:12 PM

If your pistol has no letter suffix, it means it was in the first 9,999 pistols made that year. Imperial Lugers had a maximum of four numerals in the serial numbers, sometimes followed by an alpha character. The method of numbering was 1-9999, followed by 1a-9999a, 1b-9999b, 1c-9999c and so on. Each year they started over at 1. So, in a year where they made 60,000 pistols, the alpha suffix would have gone to the e suffix.
Bob


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