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oleCB 08-27-2010 11:16 PM

WW1 Luger?
 
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Hello,

We have what we believe to be a WW1 Luger, brought back to the USA by our great uncle. A friend wants to buy this pistol for a gift and we are willing to sell it at a fair (for both parties) price.

Can anything be told by the serial # stamped on the barrel and just below it? (27941) All the parts have the last 2 # of the serial stamped on it. (Except the clip) It also has a stamp on it that looks more like am American Eagle type Crest. This weapon has been fired maybe 10 times in the last 30 years, prior to that we don't know! We think that this weapon is in execellent condition, but we are not positive.

We have posted pics in an album here and am open to suggestions. If there is someone in the K.C. metro area that could evaluate this pistol we'd like to hear from/of them.

Thanks,
oleCB

nukem556 08-27-2010 11:27 PM

It's not a military issue gun, it's an American Eagle model made for sale in the US commercially...very nice gun!!! I'll give you fairer fair price for it! hehehe

oleCB 08-27-2010 11:37 PM

And that fairer fair price is???

Thank You! I never knew the great uncle but my Aunt gave this pistol to my dad in her will. She died in 1969. We have had this pistol locked away every since. We did pruchase a box of shells for it then. They dissapeared with the clip. I aquired a new clip for it several years back and bought another box of shells. It has been fired maybe 6 times from those shells. The last time was last year when I had to put down a very strange acting (very possibly rabid) raccoon.

nukem556 08-27-2010 11:51 PM

You need to get some feedback from the more experienced collectors here , and would need some more and better detailed images for a good estimate, but i'd put a wild guess if its all matching and original at $2000- 2400?

oleCB 08-27-2010 11:58 PM

That is very good to know... No one but my family has touched this gun for over 40 years. I am sure no part has been replaced on it. I just removed the slide and even the part that holds it in place has the #41 on it.

I am not well enough versed with it to tear it clear down. I had probs getting the slide back in place.

Thank You!

oleCB.

DavidJayUden 08-28-2010 12:08 AM

Search Youtube for instructional videos regarding takedown and reassembly.
Nice 1906 Commercial. I'd second that $2000 guesstimate.

dlcm 08-28-2010 07:37 AM

Nice Luger. Is it a 7.65mm or a 9mm? I have seen the 7.65mm go upwards of $3000 and the 9mm significantly higher (depends on condition). More close up clear photos of your weapon would help put a more accurate value on it.

FNorm 08-28-2010 08:55 AM

Caliber: Try the eraser end of a standard lead pencil down the muzzle. No go, or tight it is 7.65mm, 30 cal Luger. Goes in easily, it is 9mm. Either is a rare piece.

FN

oleCB 08-28-2010 10:41 AM

I should have put in the first msg. It is a 7.65 or 30 cal! I will take more pics asap!

Thanks Again,

oleCB.

oleCB 08-28-2010 11:26 AM

I have put 15 more pics in my album. I will put them in this thread too.

oleCB 08-28-2010 11:29 AM

More Close Ups.
 
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I included a pic of 2 rounds so you can see the size as well.

oleCB 08-28-2010 11:31 AM

The rest!
 
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Here are the rest.

mrerick 08-29-2010 11:06 AM

Yes... Your pistol is in .30 Luger.

It looks like the take down lever retaining spring may be missing. Does anything fill the hole that is just in front of the trigger guard on the frame? It looks empty in your photo. If it's missing, it is possible to obtain replacements.

From the pictures it looks like it's original factory finish.

You have a very collectible and valuable Luger.

If your local friend is unable commit to buy at the value of your Luger, you will without doubt find several people on this Forum that will be interested.

Marc

oleCB 08-29-2010 11:38 AM

Marc,

Thank You. The spring is missing and I probably lost it when I took the slide out the other night. I had noticed that the lever does not want to stay locked now!


My brother and I have decided to go ahead and sell it one way or another. I have been wondering how I could go abt selling this piece in here. I will know tomorrow if my friend is all that interested in buying it. I am thinking I should take private bids for it and possibly get one of the mods to work with me in the deal with a percentage of the sale being a donation for this forum. I am not sure how it should be handled or for that matter how/if it can be shipped.

I have noticed that there is little if any wear showing on the grip safety, I'd think that if the pistol had been used much that would show a lot of wear.

Thanks Again,

oleCB

mrerick 08-29-2010 02:42 PM

Look carefully for this spring. It is a little "L" shaped affair. It's best is you can locate your original spring. Perhaps 1/2 inch long with a 1/16" tail.

You can list something for sale here in the "For Sale" forum area. This isn't an auction site, so you should know what you want for it first.

Sites like gunbroker.com and auctionarms.com run full online auctions. There are, of course, listing and sales commission costs. They are quite useful for determining recent sales prices.

There are also commercial online sellers of Lugers like Simpsons (http://simpsonltd.com), Checkpoint Charlies (http://checkpointcharlies.com) and FGS Firearms (http://fgsfirearms.com), as well as others. They can give you an idea of the retail asking price for similar Lugers when they have them. Their prices are typically 25-30% above market at auction.

I know that this forum exists through the support of its members. Your donation would surely be appreciated.

Marc

oleCB 08-29-2010 03:20 PM

Marc,

I am afraid the spring is not to be found. I even used a super magnet hoping to snag it.

I checked out the web sites you mentioned and according to the prices they are asking this is easily a $3000 pistol. I am pretty sure my friend will not buy it for his son-in-law at that price.

I will take it to him tomorrow and see what he says. If he does not want it I will then offer it here. Either way I'd say I owe the forum and will pay once it is sold.

Thanks Again and I'll be back tomorrow night to post the results.

oleCB :cheers:

JTD 08-29-2010 06:28 PM

I have the feeling you do not have the upper installed properly due to the way the toggles look half open. It should want to snap closed. DO NOT FIRE it untill you are sure it is properly assembled. John

Lugerdoc 08-30-2010 10:20 AM

CB, I have the correct TD lever spring available for your M1906AE luger @$25 postpaid. Assuming that the bore is as nice as the original finish, I'd say that it would sell quickly here on the Forum @$2500, but might go a bit higher to the right guy. TH

oleCB 09-01-2010 09:59 AM

LugerDoc, Thanks Again. the bore looks to me to be as good as the rest of the gun. I will wipe it out and let you know. I might also be interested in driving to St. Charles and have you vouch for this gun's condition and replace the spring. I have priced it based on an almost twin at one of the dealers, and then reduced that price by abt 15%. I tried to call you this am. I am leaving for TX today to baby sit 3 g-kids for 2 weeks. I'll be back in Mo. the 14th.

oleCB :jumper:

sheepherder 09-01-2010 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by oleCB (Post 182464)
I might also be interested in driving to St. Charles and have you vouch for this gun's condition and replace the spring.

I would advance the opinion that this is the best idea...and don't accept any offers until Tom looks it over...

You'd be amazed how many "gun show experts" will tell you that it is only worth $600 but they'll give you $100 more because it's Wednesday and you're a nice guy... :D


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