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ssgdigital 06-27-2010 10:05 AM

A really rare Luger what's the value
 
The gunsmith where I work at has a Luger that is supposable really rare. I have not seen it so I'm only telling his story here.

It was taken from a concentration camp from a us soldier when they liberated it. All the parts where taken before they were blued or stamped. He received it from his grandfather and assembled it. It's never been fired. How rare is this also is he blowing smoke or could this of happened?

Thanks
Shawn

policeluger 06-27-2010 10:08 AM

becareful of the dangers of second hand smoke.....go get some fresh air....run

sheepherder 06-27-2010 10:28 AM

It makes a good story... :)

Edward Tinker 06-27-2010 10:40 AM

Sure, anything is possible, I have a non serial numbered, non proof marked luger on our site legacy-collectables.com

Rare, well, it is unusal, but not neccesarily hugely valuable... All depends on how it looks now.

Many parts guns from armorer kits were put together over the years, no markings etc.

Also, why would a concentration camp have luger parts? They quit making lugers in 1942...

Ed

sheepherder 06-27-2010 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward Tinker (Post 179748)
Sure, anything is possible, I have a non serial numbered, non proof marked luger on our site legacy-collectables.com

Ed - just out of curiosity...how would you transfer/register it??? (If it was sold to a registration-required state)... :confused:

This would apply to the OP's Luger as well...

Ron Wood 06-27-2010 11:07 AM

Before a certain date (I think maybe prior to the 1966 Gun Control Act) it was not a requirement to serial number guns. So an early gun without serial number, provided it was made that way and not removed, is perfectly legal. It can be transfered by noting "no serial number" on the form.

Ron Smith 06-27-2010 11:33 AM

Shawn,

Stay with verifiable Lugers. There weren't any Plated Lugers made for Generals, Officers or U-Boat crews.

There are no verifiable Concentration Camp Lugers. If a dealer or gunsmith has one, it's most likely something that they picked up and are trying to dump it with a BS background war story.

Buy the gun, not the story...

Ron

Edward Tinker 06-27-2010 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by postino (Post 179752)
Ed - just out of curiosity...how would you transfer/register it??? (If it was sold to a registration-required state)... :confused:

This would apply to the OP's Luger as well...

yes, true, although see ron's posting below. However the one we have, has a 6 digit number stamped on the rear of the frame.


Ed

ssgdigital 06-27-2010 01:46 PM

Oh he doesn't want sell it he said he would never get rid of it. I was just curious

lugerholsterrepair 06-27-2010 02:38 PM

Oh he doesn't want sell it he said he would never get rid of it. I was just curious

It's worse than I thought..The owner believes the story!

Jerry Burney

Don M 06-27-2010 04:50 PM

It's probably just as well to let the owner continue to live in his dreamworld.

sheepherder 06-27-2010 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don M (Post 179770)
It's probably just as well to let the owner continue to live in his dreamworld.

Perhaps we need a book chronicling the various stories that "rare" Lugers are attributed to..."History Writ In Smoke"... :roflmao:

FNorm 06-27-2010 05:04 PM

Lol.... Great idea!!!

Fn

Norme 06-27-2010 05:54 PM

As someone who used to sell for a living, I know first hand that there is no more effective sales tool than a good story. Thats why, when I go to gun shows, I don't regret being somewhat hard of hearing. Regards, Norm

CharolayAnitua 06-27-2010 06:16 PM

Dear Ed
Interested in your comment re: Concentration camps manufactured lugers till 1942 - Have you any docs you can point me to confirming this?
Thanks
CharolayAnitua

blushirt23 06-27-2010 06:53 PM

I think what was meant was that Luger production on a whole ceased in 1942.

alanint 06-27-2010 08:18 PM

Also,
No Luger was ever built in a "Concentration Camp".
That is not to say there were no "guest" or "forced" laborers in arms production, just not in the manufacture of Lugers, to the best of my knowledge....

Edward Tinker 06-27-2010 11:20 PM

CORRECT

Should have had 2 lines

P38's used forced labor, do not beleive ANY were considered concentration camps.

EXCEPT for some Krieghoff's after 1942 and put togethers for soldiers after the war and also to assume repair of damaged guns, no new lugers were made by Mauser.


You guys should be nicer to this poor guy, he is simply repeating what he was told by his BOSS and now you've shattered his ego :(

Ed

Sieger 06-28-2010 12:51 AM

Auschwitz Luger?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ssgdigital (Post 179744)

It was taken from a concentration camp from a us soldier when they liberated it.

Hi:

You might ask him just which camp it came from?

Also, you all might remember our President bragging about his grandfather being in on the liberation of Auschwitz.

Funny, when someone on his staff told him that Auswitz was in Poland and that it was liberated by the Red Army, the bragging, suddenly, stoped.

I think it is very low rent to "bump" a person or thing based upon a "fake" association with the Holocost!!!!!!!

Oh well.

Sieger

ssgdigital 06-28-2010 07:40 AM

remember I didn't state this as fact, only that is what the gunsmith (definately NOT the boss) told me. I really do believe he believes it and don't want to crush his ego.

That's why I asked on here if it could be true or someone was blowing smoke.


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