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coto129 04-15-2010 12:06 PM

black widow grips
 
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Hello, I have found this grips for my p-08 and I would like to know if it would be good for my beef byf41. I have seen the listing in the site "black grips" but I am not sure about it.
Could anyone help me?

John Sabato 04-15-2010 01:35 PM

These are reproduction grips, not original, but they do look a great deal like the original grips, and should fit your byf 41 properly. They are serviceable for shooting your Luger. These grips should not cost more than about $30 U.S. Dollars. Genuine original grips of this type in good condition cost between $200 to 400 U.S. Dollars on the collector market.

coto129 04-15-2010 05:54 PM

Hello Juan. Since it is possible to know if a few black grips of bakelite are original, do they take printed some brands?

Thanks Juan

Jason L 04-16-2010 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Sabato (Post 176987)
These are reproduction grips, not original, but they do look a great deal like the original grips, and should fit your byf 41 properly. They are serviceable for shooting your Luger. These grips should not cost more than about $30 U.S. Dollars. Genuine original grips of this type in good condition cost between $200 to 400 U.S. Dollars on the collector market.

Hi John,
What is the tip off that they are fake? I would have to test these with "the hot pin", or the "Carmen Miranda clack" .For me it is too hard to tell from these photos, but I am an amateur.
Thanks ,
Jason

coto129 04-16-2010 07:04 AM

Hello Jason, which Carmen Miranda means " clack "? Do you refer, to boiling the grips?

Thanks

alanint 04-16-2010 07:32 AM

Tienen que sonar como las castanetas de Carmen Miranda al pegarlas juntas. El sonido es muy tipico del material "Bakelite" de esa epoca.....

Lugerdoc 04-16-2010 09:51 AM

Judging from the "frame spacers" on the inside of the grips shown, these are the type made for Kreighoff in 1944, not the earlier Mauser type. Unfortunately, they also make repros of these. TH

John Sabato 04-16-2010 09:57 AM

As LugerDoc mentioned above, the "frame spacers" as he called them, I call them positioning bosses or islands, are the wrong type for a byf 41... they should be elongated rectangles with round ends. (Not sure how else to describe them)... These do resemble the insides of Krieghoff grips, but do not appear to my eyes to be of a high enough quality to be KH manufacture, more likely reproductions... KH grips would be more like several hundred dollars...

Juan, I was in Sevilla last November on a tour... a very nice city with wonderful history.

coto129 04-16-2010 12:13 PM

[QUOTE = alanint; 177012] sonar Tienen Que Como Las castañetas de Carmen Miranda pegarlas juntas al. El Sonido es Muy típico del material "baquelita" de la ESA epoca .....[/ QUOTE] Ahora me acuerdo .... muy expresivo

jaja ...

Gracias

Antonio

coto129 04-16-2010 12:27 PM

[QUOTE = Juan Sabato; 177015] Como LugerDoc se mencionó anteriormente, los espaciadores "marco" como él los llamaba, yo los llamo los jefes de posicionamiento o islas, son del tipo equivocado para una BYF 41 ... deben ser alargados rectángulos con puntas redondas. (No está seguro de qué otra manera de describirlos) ... Estos se parecen a los interiores de mordazas Krieghoff, pero no parece que mis ojos a ser de una calidad lo suficientemente alta para ser KH fabricación, las reproducciones más probable ... apretones KH se parecerían más a varios cientos de dólares ...

Juan, yo estaba en Sevilla el pasado noviembre en una gira ... una ciudad muy agradable con una maravillosa historia. [/ quote]



Ok, I understand perfectly it of the most elongated islands and curved tops
Great sopresa that there is you visited my city. I hope that he liked and was spending it well and was learning his great history
In spring it is the best epoch to visit Seville, many light, color

Thanks
Antonio


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