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tomaustin 02-28-2010 11:20 PM

ERMA "lugers"
 
in the 60's, ERMA produced some number of 32 and 38? cal lugers. only one year? where are any details about this?
thanks, tom

Ron Smith 03-01-2010 09:20 AM

Tom,

Erma imported these through various importers from 1964-1986 (Ref: Gun List Guide to Firearms). Not sure where the "only one year" estimate is from. They were made in .22,.32 and .380 calibers. The current value is low. They turn up on the on-line auction sites for anywhere from $175 to $300+. I've seen them in shops for $125 in the box.

From all reports, they were not reliable and poorly made. Stoeger also imported one that was even worse.

Ron

Vlim 03-01-2010 09:23 AM

John Walter has some info on them in his 1977 'Luger' book.

After WW1, apart from smaller calibre Luger copies, Erma also produced .22lr conversion kits, and replacement P08 magazines amongst others. They also refurbished a number of Bulgarian P08's.

tomaustin 03-01-2010 10:17 PM

thanks guys....the one year issue was they apparently produced the
 
original batch without a mag safety and could not import to the us. had to revamp the safety issue and then resumed production. i found out the frame is alloy and the upper and internals are apparently good steel. don't know about the accuracy...not seen any in my shop hunts.......tom

Drachenstein 03-05-2010 02:53 PM

Just traded my Erma LA22 for a Lee Enfield last week. Best trade I ever made. The Enfield at least consistently shoots and will hit the target, the Erma seldom did either. The safety is worthless, it jams constantly acting more like a spring driven airsoft pistol, magazines cost more than 9mm and over all an embarrassment at any range. The only useful purpose I found for it was to call the cat in. If you want the feel but with a .22 cal investigate Ruger,,,,, no I didn't spell it wrong.

Parts? Just bend over it's gonna hurt.

Save your money,,,,,,,,,,, don't do it.

unspellable 03-06-2010 07:44 PM

It's been a long time since I've see a 22 Erma offered for less than $200.

I have one of the so called "baby" Ermas in 32 ACP. It really isn't a copy of the Baby Luger at all, but rather a scaled down version of the full sized Luger. Aside from being smaller, it looks much more like a real Luger than the 22 LR version. So far it has given me no trouble for functioning or accuracy.

I briefly had a Stoeger 22LR. It averaged about 2.5 jams per magazine load. When it did go bang though, it was a real tack driver. Guess it was meant for anti-flinch training.


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