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alvin 02-16-2010 09:44 PM

Why it's on market again, so quickly?
 
http://www.gregmartinauctions.com/do...AManAtArms.pdf

The video said it was just sold, last year? or two years ago?

lew1 02-16-2010 11:41 PM

Someone needs money - possible ??

Ron Smith 02-17-2010 09:37 AM

His wife found out...

alvin 02-17-2010 10:13 AM

So the rumor that I heard saying it was bought by an Arab prince is, obviously, not true. There were other versions, but most likely not true either.

It's a good oppertunity to see market uncertainty.

Vlim 02-17-2010 11:12 AM

Perhaps the provenance didn't turn out to be what it was :)

Jack Lawman 02-17-2010 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vlim (Post 174259)
Perhaps the provenance didn't turn out to be what it was :)

... or a year long shill job? :confused:

John Sabato 02-17-2010 11:34 AM

I was not aware that .45 Luger serial number #2 had a safety chip damage on the left grip! See the link to the photo in post 1.

Vlim 02-17-2010 11:50 AM

John, sharp eye.

On the photo it also looks like it has a small dent in the bottom of the trigger guard.

saab-bob 02-17-2010 11:54 AM

Well,that what happens when you shoot them!:nono:
Since the guns collector value is now ruined,I'll give $200.00 bucks for it!:roflmao:

Bob

Jack Lawman 02-17-2010 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Sabato (Post 174263)
I was not aware that .45 Luger serial number #2 had a safety chip damage on the left grip! See the link to the photo in post 1.

Very good pickup! A true "million dollar chip" :o

lew1 02-17-2010 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vlim (Post 174267)
John, sharp eye.

On the photo it also looks like it has a small dent in the bottom of the trigger guard.

Picky

FNorm 02-17-2010 05:44 PM

Damn! I already spent my 'luger budget' for this month...

FN

alvin 02-17-2010 06:05 PM

Could anyone tell me where did the original #2 story come from? What's proof of the provenance?

Of course it's out of my reach, just curious.

My dreaming gun is not one that I cannot reach, my dreaming gun is one that I can reach but would take some effort. This one does not fall into my verion of dreaming gun category.

Having said that, it's still good to know the background of this famous piece. Have a story to tell?

Norme 02-17-2010 06:46 PM

Hi Alvin, In Jan's "Central Powers Pistols" there is a lengthy discourse, with illustrations, on the two .45 cal. Lugers thought to be genuine, the Aberman and the Norton. Gee, how I would love to have a Luger named after me! Regards, Norm

Jack Lawman 02-17-2010 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alvin (Post 174283)
Have a story to tell?

I don't know if this is the story you are looking for, but at 3:52 of the video, it looks like the chip is missing:
Tales of the Gun Video Link- Luger

suum cuique 02-17-2010 07:41 PM

Well
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Lawman (Post 174277)
Very good pickup! A true "million dollar chip" :o

still a nice shooter :p

Maybe I should buy it, I have still a few boxes .45 ACP +p+ ammo left.

Vlim 02-17-2010 08:57 PM

Andy, just clip a few coils from the spring. It'll work :D

alvin 02-17-2010 09:30 PM

Just read the execellent presentation on CPP page 424 - 435. So this is Aberman, with a minor chip on left panel.

Be honest, .45 Luger is not pretty, at least not as pretty as standard 9m/m, let alone comparing with classical appearance of those early 7,65 Lugers. It's not unlike Shensei .45 Broom -- parts were enlarged for function, but designer lost his sight on beauty.

But that's unimportant, rareness and provenance guarantee its hotness. Buy one to consume some ammo, I'd like to represent President Obama to thank you contributing to U.S. economy recovery :)

===

Never mind. I represent myself, so I don't have to ask permission.

drbuster 02-18-2010 09:54 PM

This ex-Abermann #2 .45 caliber "test" luger (the REAL .45 test luger had a different grip angle) is indeed for sale at auction March 14th, Greg Martin, Anaheim. Contrary to what was posted above, it is not currently owned by Zomber/Ellis but rather to a deceased collector whose family wants to remain anonymous. It passed through a few hands at considerably under the original Abermann price of $900,000. Rumors of its joining #5 in the Norton Museum are merely rumors. It will be interesting to see what it sells for or even if it meets the reserve price in this conservative market.

LugerVern 02-18-2010 10:54 PM

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Really bad picture!
It looks like it has been abused!

It doesn't look like the same gun to me.

Well, I wish them luck.

Vern


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