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c3006 01-04-2010 10:41 PM

DWM Mauser Military Rework???
 
I cant figure this one out either. It has a unmarked chamber with DWM on toggle,crown n on left side,WAa66 under drop wing on right side. SN 4972t. Also has police type sear safe.My pics are bad,they make the straw look better than it is but overall its pretty nice. What yall think.
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Jan C Still 01-05-2010 12:32 AM

INTRODUCTION
Lugers in the “s", "t" and "u" suffix serial range were manufactured by DWM (BKIW) during 1929 and early 1930. Many went to the Prussian State Landjägerei (force of 9000) and bear “L" unit markings. Others were routed to the German Navy, German Army, Finnish military, to other police units or to commercial sales. These commercial sales included a few two line Stoeger American Eagles. For more details see Third Reich Lugers page 202 to 218, and Weimar Lugers page 13 to 17, 31 to 33, and 146 to 154.

The Landjägerer unit marked Lugers are all (or almost all) confined to the 29 DWM Lugers and many bear an Eagle/WaA66 stamp on the right receiver.

These "s", "t" and "u" serial range Lugers were previously called 1933 Mauser Sneaks in the mistaken belief that the "L" unit markings found on them indicated paramilitary Nazi units and that the Lugers were secretly reworked by Mauser from surplus Imperial Lugers. The unmarked toggles found on many of the 29 DWM’s suggested that an attempt was made to hide the manufacturer from the Allied Control Commission. In fact, the Allied Control Commission had left Germany in 1928. The "L" unit markings signify the Prussian State Police Landjägerei that rearmed with Lugers in 1929 and 1930 (Kornmayer, Wotka, 1988). Magnetic flux testing and careful examination indicate that these Lugers are of new manufacture. Also, there are at least seven 29 DWM Landjägerei Lugers reported matched to 1929 dated police holsters (These 1929 dated holsters are among the first new manufacture police style holsters).

Your 1929 DWM, sn 4972t. marked L.H. 149: Landjagerei Hannover district.
POLICE 29 DWM, SN 3541t, RIG http://luger.gunboards.com/showthrea...ighlight=Luger

c3006 01-05-2010 06:24 AM

Thanks Jan,you just cant beat gettin it striaght from the man. c

alvin 01-05-2010 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jan C Still (Post 171691)
Magnetic flux testing and careful examination indicate that these Lugers are of new manufacture.

Is this the mentioned technology used in C&R firearm inspection? TIA

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_flux_leakage

Jan C Still 01-05-2010 12:39 PM

Alvin
The original stamping of a serial number in the metal of a gun disturbs the metal at a greater depth than the stamped number. When a serial number is filed off a gun Magnetic flux testing can be used to detect the disturbed area and identify the original serial number. Magnetic flux testing has been successful in identifying unit markings ground off the front straps of Imperial unit marked Lugers.
Jan

Mike B 01-05-2010 01:27 PM

Jan,
I have an '08 Bulgarian that has been sanitized. Can the procedure that you described above cause the "DWM" over the chamber to be evident?

Mike

Ron Smith 01-05-2010 02:59 PM

Magnetic Flux is used by Law enforcement to bring out ground serial numbers. It can be used to bring out any previous stampings or roll marks in the metal. It will locate any up-set or compressed areas in the structure of the metal.

alanint 01-05-2010 09:59 PM

This only works with carbon steel firearms. Thieves learned long ago, for instance, to completely cut through the mag well of an AR15 to completely obliterate the serial number.
Many modern guns are aluminum or some alloy. By drilling deep enough all evidence of a serial number is gone....

jamese 01-06-2010 09:56 AM

Law enforcement uses the acid method also to bring out ground serial numbers, but it ruins the guns bluing.

Jim

c3006 01-06-2010 04:47 PM

Anybody want to venture a guess at what this piece might be worth?? c


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