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RWS 9mm Ammo and Lugers
Anyone have any experience with RWS 9mm Ammo in Lugers or other guns? Our local shop just got a shipment and it's $20 per 50. 124 grain bullet. Good price I thought.
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No Walmarts around? At $20/50 I think about ending any 9mm shooting.
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That's the cheapest 9mm we have. Any opinions? And no, walmart/kmart don't sell ammo out here.
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The Sportsman's guide just got in a whole shipment of Pakistany 9mm. Very reasonably priced. It works fine in my shooter Lugers and my MP40
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RWS = GeCo = Dynamit (Nobel) AG.
Should work just fine in a P08, a tad on the mild side. |
Try J&G Sales in Prescott AZ. They are advertising Remington 115gr. at $14.95 a box of 50, or Brown Bear 115gr at $104 for 500 rds.. They do mail order and are easy to deal with.
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Thanks for the replies gents. Appreciate the info on RWS and J&G.
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I bought from J&G, and their prices are good. However, you have to be there to sign for the ammo when it arrives. They require that the shipper gets a signature upon delivery. I have always been satisfied with my purchases from them.
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alanint commented on the surplus Pakistani 9mm from Sportsman's guide and his experience with it. I bought 500 rounds because of the price. I had one FTE in the first 50 rounds fired through my 42 byf. Today at the range, I had 7 FTF out of 100. Repeated strikes did not fire them. I guess you get what you pay for. Once my supply is depleted, no more Pakistani surplus 9mm for me. Surplusammo.com, a supplier near me in Western WA carries BVAC reloaded 9mm ammo at a good price. I have had excellent results using it in both my P-08 and my Springfield XD-9 Tactical.
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I just used Winchester 115gr in my 1913 DWM (1st time since buying). No issues at all. Had read somewhere that the Luger was designed for a higher load. :confused: Would 124gr be appropriate for shooting then? I have some by "RWS"..... Also, the Remington 115gr round appears slightly shorter than the Winchester; no problems with using this as well right? Cheers, Matt :jumper: |
I just got some of the RWS 124 grain at my local Walmart for $12.97 a box. I will try some next week and see how my Luger likes it. Up til now I have only used Win. 115 FMJ in mine, and it has functioned flawlessly, with good mags.
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Matt,
Appropriate? Yes. But it is always advisable to test a small batch before buying the lot :) I've fired S&B 145gr subsonic, which is scaringly short, snubnosed ammo with a reduced load. To my amazement the P08 worked through them without problems. Only the toggle wouldn't remain open after the last shot. Eye and ear protection is always a good precaution, especially around older guns. |
Porta,
When I go involved with Lugers someone(I think on this forum) told me to not use anything lighter than 124 grn bullets. I've used that advice and never had a problem with a failure to operate the action. I'm glad to hear others have had success with lighter bullets but I have never tried them Just my thoughts on the subject. Levi |
If you are a reloader like me DAG, RWS, GeCo brands may pose an issue. DAG brass has a smaller flash hole than most brass and standard decapping pins and will not cycle through. Pretty good quality brass though so I drilled out a few hunderd of them a 5/64" bit will get the flash hole to the right size. Reload away ! 124gn Montana gold fmj,CCI500 primer and 4.1gns Vitahvouri n320 C.o.l 1.142" It is a beautiful thing. Powder is a bit pricey but it is so clean you can burn hundreds of rounds with almost no fouling.
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I have had good performance in my Lugers using 4.0 grains of TiteGroup behind a 115gn Remmington FMJ.
I did find that the slightly hotter recommended load of 4.2gn of TiteGroup caused stovepipe problems in a 1917 Erfurt. Marc |
Just got back from shooting a box of 124 gr. RWS through a Luger.
As Vlim stated: "Should work just fine in a P08, a tad on the mild side". It cycled and fired 100% through the pistol and 4 different brands of mags. However, the recoil was pretty heavy and sharp, so I would disagree on the "mild" part. It was pretty accurate, though. |
Nice. Try S&B and you'll see what I mean with 'mild' :)
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These are one of the most accurate ammo I've ever shot. But you are not talking about these.
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk246/44RM/RWS.jpg RWS or Geco always work fine, but muy favourite no is Fiocchi 100grs. Superb accuracy and low recoil, but I think it is not exported to USA. |
That ammo is beyond shooting: it has become collectable and shooting it is destroying collector grade ammunition, really.
A mint box of this RWS/Geco pre-1945 stuff brings at least double the amount of a modern commercial 50-round ammo box. So if you have a stash, start selling it to collectors and stop shooting it :) |
I know, Vlim, but imagine to find almost a full box of full boxes.... Don't you want to fire some?. I tested them and find them very acccurate, so I decided to fire 70 rds. on a precision competion. 542 pts over 600 trough my Jericho 941.
Curious to fire this ammo with this pistol ;-) But I did not sell any round, I gifted some boxes to my friends, collectors or not, and kept left few for my collection or new friends. Wonderfull ammo!! I got several years ago some .22 LR 1943 german boxes and also with great acccuracy. |
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