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lutthier 12-06-2009 01:11 PM

barrel markings on police rework
 
These marking are from a 1920 Reichswehr property marked PO8 that at one time went into police service (It has the sear safety). I've been searching around this sight and Jan Still's Gunboards and I cant figure out what these markings mean. Unfortunatly the frame and barrel were polished and reblued which doesn't help. One of the marks I'm certain is a 25 with something above it and the other ??

lutthier 12-06-2009 01:15 PM

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I guess the pictures didn't work I'll try it again

Don M 12-06-2009 03:11 PM

The marking on the upper right of the barrel may be the Berlin police armory proof PTV/E (or TP/E, if 1935 or later) which would be consistent with rebarreling by the police. I can't tell anything about the other stamp. More info about the gun and better photos may help.

lutthier 12-06-2009 04:06 PM

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Thanks for the quick reply. I've posted a few more pics. Seriel # 3052 a

lutthier 12-06-2009 04:08 PM

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I think this is better

Don M 12-06-2009 04:40 PM

I can't really tell from the photos but the other stamp may be a Simson acceptance stamp E/33 or E/6, indicating the barrel was purchased from Simson by the police armory. It may also be from some other supplier. Is there a single digit number on the bottom of the barrel?

The 1920 on the chamber is the manufacture date, not the government property stamp. It is consistent with the serial number 3052a.

Is there anything stamped on the front grip strap?

lutthier 12-06-2009 04:53 PM

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I cropped the picture.

lutthier 12-06-2009 04:57 PM

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There is no other #s on the strap or under the barrel. Here's a couple more photos.

lutthier 12-06-2009 05:01 PM

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Here's an interesting mark

lutthier 12-06-2009 05:08 PM

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I was told this was a very early possibly first issue PO8.

Edward Tinker 12-06-2009 05:45 PM

SU 25 is a stamp sometimes claimed as a rework or simply a issue stamping.

This was an early 1908 (stamped with proofs and acceptance as expected on the left) and then the gun was modified with a hold open; this is shown with your picture of the acceptance marking on the right of the frame.

Then stamped with 1920 reichswehr property stamping; thats not a date and then went into police service at soem point.


Ed

Don M 12-06-2009 05:55 PM

Now that I see the rest of the photos, I agree with Ed.

alanint 12-06-2009 05:59 PM

Your stamp on the side of the receiver is the arsenal proof when a holdopen was added, which original P08s did not have...

lutthier 12-06-2009 06:49 PM

Thanks guys,

I was told by a friend that the smaller mark was from an added hold open, which indicated an early luger, but I wanted to double check. Sorry about the piecemeal photos, but the files were huge and I could only do one or two at a time.

Was the SU above the 25? That would explain the mark above the 25. What about the other faint stamp?

You guys are amazing. I don't know how you keep all this stuff straight, but I'm glad your willing to share you information.


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