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Douglas Jr. 11-10-2009 07:16 AM

Colt Pocket M1903
 
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Hi,

Some months ago I got this Colt Pocket 1903, serial number 449614, chambered for .32ACP. They are not rare (more than 570,000 made between 1903 and 1946) but I simply love them. I think it is because my father used to carry one back in the 70s when he had to work at night. And it was one of the first guns of my collection, when he gave it to me.

However this one caught my attention because it is simply MINT. According to information provided by a fellow collector on another board this baby was made in 1923, but I think that it was rarely shot. Its finish, with exception of a few scratches (and a small crack in the grip) is so well done that was even difficult to take pictures without see my reflection in the slide. A typical exemple of the early 20th Century Colt's craftmanship.

Douglas.

Douglas Jr. 11-10-2009 07:17 AM

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few more pictures:thumbsup:

alvin 11-10-2009 08:00 AM

Doug -- I found we have the same taste. I love 1903 as well, but have not studied it yet. The price varies big time on the market. Learning....

sheepherder 11-10-2009 09:07 AM

That is a beauty!!! I've been looking for one, too...Just missed one a few months ago (had already sent in mortgage check)...

I like the hard rubber grips better than the wood.

A Colt 1903 pocket pistol would make an excellent companion to my Savage Mod 1910 pocket pistol. :D

worldoftone 11-10-2009 09:14 AM

Although I'm not a big fan of those, that one looks nice! Always nice to see historical firearms in mint original condition.

- WOT

Douglas Jr. 11-10-2009 12:55 PM

Oh, I reallly love this model.
I had no doubt to grab this one when I had the chance.
In fact, as far as I know, the rarest (and thus the most expensive) are the ones marked "US Property" that were purchased back during WWII for use as the official General officers sidearm. Several were also sent to the famous OSS.

Douglas

alvin 11-10-2009 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by worldoftone (Post 168399)
Although I'm not a big fan of those, that one looks nice! Always nice to see historical firearms in mint original condition.

- WOT

Not a guru on COLT, and sorry to Doug, this one is cute but .... it's a reblued. "mint original" exists in the U.S. because there are plentiful of guns, certain percentage will fall into that category. Let's see the following making any sense to you or not -- When there are more guns than 'soldiers', then, some guns were seldomly used. In movie "Enemy At The Gate", we saw Russian had more soldiers than guns, so most imported guns from Russia were reblued regardless it's a captured Luger or CAI MN44. This 'soldier'/gun ratio decides gun condition from high level. There is a regional context in the gun condition and collectibility.

sheepherder 11-10-2009 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Douglas Jr. (Post 168381)
According to information provided by a fellow collector on another board this baby was made in 1923...

Proofhouse has a serial database for Colts -

http://proofhouse.com/

According to them, yours is a 1925...

Douglas Jr. 11-11-2009 07:51 AM

Postoino,

I took this information from here:
http://www.coltautos.com

And it says that 1923 serial # started at 420000 and finished at 450000.

Douglas

sheepherder 11-11-2009 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Douglas Jr. (Post 168447)
Postoino,

I took this information from here:
http://www.coltautos.com

And it says that 1923 serial # started at 420000 and finished at 450000.

Douglas

Douglas - So it does. Now you have two sites with contradictory dates. I imagine there are more. ;)

You pays you money and you takes you chances... :)

alanint 11-11-2009 09:27 AM

I have another source, gleaned directly from Colt records. I will be happy to check it tonight and chime in..

alanint 11-12-2009 05:57 AM

Your serial number is 449,614

Model 03 (Hammerless) Pocket in that serial range was made in 1925, (serials from 446,000 to 459,999)

In 1923, Colt Hammerless production ran from 417,000 to 437,000

This is directly from Colt's ledgers

Douglas Jr. 11-12-2009 06:06 AM

Alain,

Thanks for correct my source.
I really appreciated your work.

Douglas

sheepherder 11-12-2009 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by alanint (Post 168539)
Your serial number is 449,614

Model 03 (Hammerless) Pocket in that serial range was made in 1925, (serials from 446,000 to 459,999)

In 1923, Colt Hammerless production ran from 417,000 to 437,000

This is directly from Colt's ledgers

Ah, so http://www.coltautos.com/ is wrong and http://proofhouse.com/ is correct...Good; I can delete http://www.coltautos.com/ from my bookmarks...makes it a bit more tidy... :thumbup: :rolleyes::p

alanint 11-12-2009 09:26 AM

For anybody interested in Colt Firearms from the company's inception through the middle 1980s should buy "Colt, An American Legend"

http://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&key...sl_8bwavpzy8_e

This tome covers all aspects of Colt firearms, including historically significant presentation and engraved guns.

The back of the book has a comprehensive production history of every type of gun the company produced, including military contracts. The data also comes from Colt's company ledgers.
They are easy tables to use and much handier than internet searches.

l10 11-12-2009 08:04 PM

Love these little colts. I picked up an excellent 1908 model of 1923 vintage from my neighbor. He brought it back from a family visit to Michigan. It had been in his family since new, rarely if ever used. He decided to sell it a few months later and offered it to me. I bought it and when I picked it up he said he had thrown away the box and original receipt because he didn't think any one would want it.::nono:

An artist friend of mine offered me one years ago. He was a little short on operating capital at the time. It was a US issue that had been his Uncles, a US Navy Pilot in the Pacific during WWII. He had died while coming aboard after a battle. His plane burned. The squadron members sent his stuff home including the colt with charred grips. He decided to keep it which was proper. I would treasure that more than the rarest most pristine pistol in my collection had it been my family member. Hope he still has it to pass on.


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