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Jasta2 10-16-2009 11:37 PM

Was there ever a "original" target Luger?
 
I have read that some shooters have built and won target shooting matches with their custom built target lugers. Did any Luger manufacture make what could be called a true target shooting Luger? Even if it was only a one off test model?
Would be intresting to see photos of personal custom built target Lugers. MMM??? In just the target area, was the .30 cal Luger more acurate, tighter grouping than it's big brother 9mm? Just some crazy questions on a cold,lazy.New Hampshire evening.
Thanks,Bill

mauro 10-17-2009 04:24 AM

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Mauser made the so called "Sport model" for shooting purposes.

Two different configurations for the .30 luger and 9mm (in the picture).

It is rare and expensive today.

Cheers,
Mauro
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Jasta2 10-17-2009 09:47 AM

WOW!! What year were they made? Value now? It's a shame, another Luger ment (I know they are are) to be shot in sport, yet it's self maybe so collectable that it best be left unshot.
Bill

mauro 10-17-2009 10:30 AM

Bill,
The sport model production has been started around 1975. The production was really limited. The current price is difficult to say; they are really uncommon.

This is now a collectible item.

I just realize that is missing in my collection too...:confused:

Cheers,
Mauro

Lugerdoc 10-17-2009 10:31 AM

Bill, I agree with Mauro that the 1980s Mauser Sport Modell was the only "production" target luger made. This not to say the Georg L. didn't make any custom "national match" types at DWM for his buddies on a "one of" basis, possibly in the 10,000 B prototype range. You'll also find pictured in some of the luger books, photos of modified target lugers used by the Swiss in their competitions. TH

Michael Zeleny 10-17-2009 06:15 PM

Waffenfabrik Bern (W+F) constructed a number of target Lugers, the most famous of which was the 170mm-barreled 1906/29 7.65mm Luger shot by Heinrich Keller of Frauenfeld, Switzerland, in the course of winning the 1949 ISSF competition in Buenos Aires, as seen here.

Hugh 10-17-2009 08:19 PM

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:thumbsup:My custom target Luger built by a now deceased Texas gunsmith, 9mm, S&W rear sight. Note stop screws in top & bottom of trigger.:

Jasta2 10-17-2009 09:43 PM

Very Nice!! How is the trigger pull? I bet it groups well
Bill

sheepherder 10-17-2009 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 166889)
:thumbsup:My custom target Luger built by a now deceased Texas gunsmith, 9mm, S&W rear sight. Note stop screws in top & bottom of trigger.:

Hugh -

I've mounted some [shortened] S&W K and N frame sights like yours on M1911's...I see yours screws to a pad attached to the rear toggle...How is the pad itself attached??? :)

alanint 10-18-2009 12:32 AM

I posted an image of a completely custom Luger Target Pistol taken by me at the Nacional Firearms Museum in Buenos Aires, Argentina about a year ago, but I don't know how to bump it over here.

lfid 10-18-2009 04:08 AM

Hugh ,

could you post some pictures of the target luger rear toggle showing how the pad / toggle extension is made ?

is it silver soldered on , or welded or ?

or a custom machined one piece rear toggle ?

thanks
lfid

alterfritz 10-18-2009 05:19 AM

I remember distinctly that I saw pictures and read a story about a man who won some championship in the 1950s with a luger pistol. I can't remember his name but I saw the pic on the internet somewhere with him firing his luger in a competition.

Vlim 10-18-2009 07:15 AM

That was a member of the Swiss olympic shooting team. The pistol he shot with was a specially prepared Swiss 06/29 with a lengthened barrel and target sights.

After the olympics, the guns were dismantled, restored to their military configuration and issued ...

Michael Zeleny 10-21-2009 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by alterfritz (Post 166918)
I remember distinctly that I saw pictures and read a story about a man who won some championship in the 1950s with a luger pistol. I can't remember his name but I saw the pic on the internet somewhere with him firing his luger in a competition.

As stated above, that was Heinrich Keller of Frauenfeld, Switzerland, shooting the 170mm-barreled 1906/29 7.65mm Luger in the course of winning the 1949 ISSF competition in Buenos Aires. You can find the photos here.

Jasta2 10-21-2009 10:34 PM

Great photo, wish there was a close up of the Luger. Kind of puts to rest the ability of the Luger provided the right person is pilling the triger. More info on the barrell, twist and what ammo was he using.
Thanks,Bill

Hugh 10-22-2009 03:34 AM

Tonight is my first time back to the Forum since posting the target Luger pics. I will take some closeups of the rear toggle and post them Thursday or Friday.:)

John Sabato 10-22-2009 10:19 AM

Hugh,

You took some "unauthorized" time off from the forum? That's coming outta your pay mister! :D

Hugh 10-22-2009 03:39 PM

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Sorry, John, been checkering Luger grips!

Here are closeups of the target rear sight. The extra block appears to be soldered on as is the little round "nut" for the mounting screw:

SIGP2101 10-22-2009 03:43 PM

I like those two:

http://www.waffen-werle.de/grafik/08...T_005_2_gr.jpg

http://www.waffen-werle.de/grafik/08...ORT_001_gr.jpg

Hugh 10-22-2009 03:43 PM

And tho not a Luger,
 
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here is my "target" Walther PPK 22:


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