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suum cuique 09-17-2009 08:28 PM

WW1 Luger with KAGGR1 marking
 
Gentlemen,
did somebody ever saw a Luger with a unit marking:
KAGGR or KAGGR1 ?
Thanks

klaus 3338 09-18-2009 07:44 AM

No problem: it´s Kaiser Alexander Garde Grenadier Regiment No. 1.
I remember a holster for it.
Regards Klaus

suum cuique 09-18-2009 03:22 PM

Hi Klaus,
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by klaus 3338 (Post 164936)
No problem: it´s Kaiser Alexander Garde Grenadier Regiment No. 1.
I remember a holster for it.
Regards Klaus

yes, I know it is the Alexander-Rgt.
I 've collected alot of items of this Regiment during the last 20 years.
Here you can see our great-grandfather Franz. He is wearing a miter and a clarinette:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaiser_...Regiment_Nr._1

I'm looking for a luger with the KAGGR / KAGGR1 marking, but I am not sure if a luger with this marking even exists.

jussi16 09-18-2009 05:28 PM

Hello!

Is this Kaiser your relative somehow? That would be great!
:bowdown:

In my country we don`t have any monarchs...
Just the old thing... democracy... after a country dividing civil war...

Mostly peasants and such..

For more, see Internet.

Sorry for my irony. ;)
No cruel meanings intended. Just everyone of us is a King...

Ron Wood 09-18-2009 05:54 PM

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Andy,
I do not have a Garde Grenadier Regiment 1 Luger but I do have one from the 2nd Regiment.

suum cuique 09-18-2009 05:56 PM

nope
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jussi16 (Post 164973)
Hello!

Is this Kaiser your relative somehow? That would be great!
:bowdown:

In my country we don`t have any monarchs...
Just the old thing... democracy... after a country dividing civil war...

Mostly peasants and such..

For more, see Internet.

Sorry for my irony. ;)
No cruel meanings intended. Just everyone of us is a King...

Unfortunatly the Kaiser was not a relative, just the gentleman with the miter.
Well, at least the Finns were good, trustworth allies.
:cheers:

suum cuique 09-18-2009 06:02 PM

Nice!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Wood (Post 164975)
Andy,
I do not have a Garde Grenadier Regiment 1 Luger but I do have one from the 2nd Regiment.

2. Garde Regiment zu Fuss or
"Kaiser Franz" Garde-Grenadier-Regiment Nr.2 ?

Anyway, a nice marking

suum cuique 09-18-2009 06:22 PM

Btw
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by klaus 3338 (Post 164936)
No problem: it´s Kaiser Alexander Garde Grenadier Regiment No. 1.
I remember a holster for it.
Regards Klaus

Klaus, was / is this holster for sale?

klaus 3338 09-19-2009 01:54 AM

It was mine and a sold it to a collector here in Germany.

RichSr 09-19-2009 10:01 AM

Andy,
I don't read german but the photo would indicate the gentleman is holding an oboe, not a clarinet. Hope this doesn't contradict family history.

suum cuique 09-19-2009 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichSr (Post 165022)
Andy,
I don't read german but the photo would indicate the gentleman is holding an oboe, not a clarinet. Hope this doesn't contradict family history.

Rich,
honestly, I always thought it is a clarinette.:banghead:
Thanks for your information, I have to check on this.

suum cuique 09-19-2009 10:50 AM

What a pitty
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by klaus 3338 (Post 165009)
It was mine and a sold it to a collector here in Germany.

:bowdown:

I would buy a holster like this instantly. I collect KAGGR1 stuff.

klaus 3338 09-19-2009 02:44 PM

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Andy,
I´m sorry but I made a mistake. I looked at my older photos and found the holster but it´s stamp was KAGGR4 (Königin Augusta Garde Grenadier Regiment No.4). Holster was made by PAUL WARNEST BERLIN in 1911.
Regards Klaus

klaus 3338 09-19-2009 02:48 PM

Ron, one time more a nice unit marked Luger. You have a great collection and are one of the best experts. Thanks for showing.
Regards Klaus

Ron Wood 09-19-2009 03:55 PM

Thank you Klaus. Considering the excellent quality of your collection, I consider your complement high praise indeed.

suum cuique 09-19-2009 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klaus 3338 (Post 165039)
Andy,
I´m sorry but I made a mistake. I looked at my older photos and found the holster but it´s stamp was KAGGR4 (Königin Augusta Garde Grenadier Regiment No.4). Holster was made by PAUL WARNEST BERLIN in 1911.
Regards Klaus

Klaus,
even a KAGGR4 holster is very rare.
If you cross a KAGGR1 holster sometime, please keep me in mind.

"Es lebe hoch das Regiment, dass sich mit Stolz Alexander nennt!"
(Hail the Regiment, which is called Alexander)

Jan C Still 09-20-2009 12:50 AM

Andy
I have a 1917 LP.08, sn 9868g, marked 1.G.G.12.9 which signifies: 1. Kaiser Alexander Garde Grenadier Regiment, 12 Kompagnie, Waffe no. 9. It is shown on page xxv of Imperial Lugers, Second Edition.
Jan

abukafura 09-20-2009 02:34 PM

Here's another one for the list" I have 5.G.G.M.G.55. It is a 1912 DWM (tough date to find). Nice gun, serial 8337ns.

suum cuique 09-21-2009 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jan C. Still (Post 165088)
Andy
I have a 1917 LP.08, sn 9868g, marked 1.G.G.12.9 which signifies: 1. Kaiser Alexander Garde Grenadier Regiment, 12 Kompagnie, Waffe no. 9. It is shown on page xxv of Imperial Lugers, Second Edition.
Jan

Nice!
I am confused. I thought always the marking for this Regiment was KAGGR1.
Is there a listing of all unit markings somewhere online?
I could not find anything.

abukafura 09-21-2009 06:49 PM

I think that th best source of unit markings is Jeff Noll's great book "The Imperial German Regimental Marking". Wealth of information.


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