Extractors
 

okay, showed the two I am picking up, and when I went upstairs to check what I had (no hold opens Mike B #23, just have one #44)

I have 4 Geladen extractors, two have this Cross CV marking? I am guesing these are Swiss that I got from gunbroker a while back.

Then I have one unmarked and another that is erfurt evidently.


Ed

Hello Ed, you are probably right about the two CV marked ones beeing Swiss. According to Walter's The Luger Book the letters stands for "Chrom-Nickel-Stahl", used in Swiss Bern lugers.

The bottom is also probably Erfurt, but the logo is so darn close to Kongsberg Våpenfabrikk. I recently found out that they produced ejectors trough some blueprints.. but I have never seen one :rolleyes:

Yup, the Kongsberg arsenal produced a large number of Luger spares (have the proof in writing) and the crown/R symbol can be found on those Norwegian made spares.

But, like Steinar, I never saw one for real.

Steinar, interesting, you had / saw a lot of spare parts, surprising you never saw those? Did they not make many or just unlucky in not seeing any??


Ed

They made complete toggles and extractors also, I just haven't been lucky enough to find them :)

I may be being picky, but those sure look like extractors to me :).

Sorry, you are right. Mike Jones told me the same thing and I forgot to change this heading.

I seem to have a mental block on calling these damn things the right thing. It makes no sense to me that there is a extractor and ejector, there isn't both in a 1911...

"It makes no sense to me that there is a extractor and ejector, there isn't both in a 1911"

Yes there is.

I guess I never think about the part on the frame as being a ejector. I only think of the extractor above on the slide ( # 8 ).


But I just won't talk about extractors or ejectors :banghead:

Some of the small puppies in 6.35mm don't have ejector.. like the early Mauser 1910. On the later models they placed it on the right side of the magazine, there is probably a good reason for that.. I just can't see it with my novice eyes.

Ejectors/extractors is interesting stuff eh? ;)

Steinar,

About ejectors not being on some of the small ".25 ACP" guns, as we know them in the U.S....

They do have ejectors. Well, yes and no. The firing pin also serves as the ejector. As the fired case is withdrawn by the extractor, when its mouth clears and barrel chamber and front of the ejection port in the slide, the spring loaded firing pin becomes the ejector. Most of these firing pins extend more than 1/8" in front of the slide face when not held by the sear.

The design works just fine, but I'm always uncomfortable and very careful when occasionally clearing the live round from one of the small Colt, Browning, or Bauer .25 pistols I sometimes carry, as right now. But I've never heard of one going off under those circumstances, and they've been in use for close to 100 years. So I guess it's O.K. ;)

Going further off the original topic, the Beretta tip-up barrel design (950 Jetfire as an example)has an ejector but no extractor. A little disconcerting but they are reliable.