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Ice 09-05-2009 09:13 AM

1920s 7.65mm Alpha Commerical
 
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I received this 1920's Commercial from Lugerdoc just yesterday and want to give Tom Heller a BIG THANKS!

It arrived well packed and is just as he described. Tom thoughtfully packed it in a nice gun rug too. I am well pleased and my wife is thrilled since it is her Luger now. She and I share a small collection. The Commercial is in excellent condition with just enough wear that we won't be afraid to shoot it on occasion; I do replace the most breakable parts however.

Can anyone comment on the un-numbered blued wood bottom magazine? I thought the wood bottom ones were bright plated.

Charlie

alvin 09-05-2009 09:28 AM

The correct magazine is bright plated. Unlike older 1900 "dull white" magazine, it's shiny. Zinc plated for this period? (experts please tell me, TIA). The only blued part that I can tell is the pin at the bottom. Peacock blue.

And this gun is indeed a little bit shorter than standard military. Weimar guns are fun.

drbuster 09-05-2009 11:36 AM

The blued tube plain wooden bottom magazines are seen in the later Weimar period but who is to say this 1920 era commercial didn't leave the factory with this magazine. I would have preferred to see a chrome plated magazine tube but this blued one is not wrong for this pistol.

Lugerdoc 09-06-2009 08:58 AM

Charlie, The mag in question is a Finnish WW2 era replacement. When I acquired this pistol it had a WW2 Schmeisser type mag in it, so I added the only decent condition wood bottomed mag that I had in stock. TH

Ice 09-06-2009 09:28 AM

There are no complaints about the mag; glad to know where it came from.

Charlie

sabbathmusic 10-19-2010 10:02 AM

The magazine can be blued, it does not have to be bright, being this is a 20's commerical there are no rules on LUGERS that could not be broken. Mine is a 1920's commercial and it has a blue magazine and it is correct, also they can have alloy bottoms and be correct. There are blue magazines with wood bottoms.

Lugerdoc 10-20-2010 10:18 AM

To my knowledge, DWM never made any blued aluminum bottomed mags. Simson introduced the alum mag bottom in plated tubes in the mid 1920s. Mauser introduced the blued mag tubes in about 1937. Tom

MFC 10-31-2010 01:24 AM

Hi Joe,
I have to disagree with you. Commercials of the 1920's did not have mags with blued tubes.

Lugerdoc 10-31-2010 08:29 AM

Valentine, Many older mags have been rebuilt and some blued over the years. TH

ledzeppelin 10-31-2010 07:12 PM

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MFC 10-31-2010 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by valentine (Post 184776)
This is mine, it is blued and it is the correct magazine from one of my many 1920 commercials.

Joe,
Most commercials made by Mauser in the 30's had mags with aluminum bottoms. If a commercial made in the 20's (DWM) was sent back to the factory in the 30's, it would be a different factory (Mauser). I've learned when it comes to Lugers it seems there are always exceptions to the rules, but the rule is 20DWM's and Alphabet DWM commercials (all made in the 20's) originally had mags with tin or nickel plated tubes with wood bottoms.

Edward Tinker 11-01-2010 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ledzeppelin (Post 184851)
I have a web site here, I just called him. Look at his array of lugers. He did mention to me on the phone a 20 commercial can have anything on them. They even can have been sent back to the factory in the 30's and replaced with alloy bottom one's, who knows. Here is his fantastic website; http://www.relicsofthereichs.com/lugers.htm

yes, but there is a big difference in any luger having a magazine in it when brought back from WW2, versus a new made luger in 1924 for the commercial market.

And yes, Mike has had hundreds if not thousands of lugers go through his table and "shop".


Ed

DavidJayUden 11-01-2010 02:56 PM

See what you started when you mentioned "blued magazine"...
Nice Luger.
dju


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