1st post with 1st Luger
 

Just picked this up today can you guys tell me a little about it I know nothing about Lugers .
All numbers match even grips but the mag does not

no import marks low numbered
didnt even clean it yet
holster has no stamps and looks like the name inside is
( Carl Lottmann ARNSTALT ) The last 3 letters are hard to make out.
Thanks for the help hope I picked up a good one

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Nice looking piece. Decent holster too.

Junk

You have a dated 1918 Erfurt made military Luger. It was the last year that the goverment arsenal in Erfurt made weapons. Those are Imperal proof/acceptance stamps on the right side of the frame.

The "low serial" number is somewhat misleading, as these military Luger's serial numbers were repeated when they reached 9999. The numbers would start over again at 1, but then with a letter suffix. If you check the full serial number on the front of the frame, below the barrel, you may see the suffix letter, (often hard to decipher).

Nice Luger
Joe

Hey Joe, it looks like a 1916 to me. :D

Theres no letters before the ser #

The letter would be below the number on the front of the frame.

Shes a real piece of history... A nice erfurt! Clean Her gently, Lube her generously (but not the wood-don't get any oil on the wood!) and preserve her for posterity... she deserves it!

Don't store her in the holster... it draws moisture and will cause her to rust.

Maintain the shape of the holster with a wooden magazine in the mag holder and bubble wrap in the main part. Don't buckle it unless you have to... wears out the belt.

The unrelieved sear bar suggests earlier 1916 production, also note the unusual lack of a relief cut for the LP08 sight. KFS

Looked at the photo too fast, it is a 1916 issue. Still a nice pistol.

Joe

Junkmanted, the holster marker should be Carl Lattmann (in) ARNSTADT. What´s about the magazine, did it have the same number? Is there a tool in the holster?
Regards Klaus

mag is non matching and no tool
heres a picture of the front of the frame no letters

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w...d/100_0673.jpg

I found a date stamped inside the holster 1918

Nice brown military Luger holster.

Joe

That is a nice Erfurt. It looks 100% correct, but the puzzle, as Karl observed, is why a 1916 Erfurt receiver is not cut for the arty sight and why it has an unrelieved sear bar (it is an Erfurt proofed receiver). I'm not putting the gun down, it is just that it is an enigma.

According to Still, Imperial Lugers, the relieved sear bar and receiver cut were both implemented during 1916 Erfurt production. There is a photo of 1916 Erfurt 743d with an uncut receiver but a relieved sear bar.

If Junkmanted is correct about the lack of a serial # suffix he has has an early example. KFS

Thanks for the information and I need to shoot it at least 1 time .
She cleaned up nice the crud on the grips came off I took a new soft brass brush and went with the grooves and all the crap came off .
Now its in the safe wrapped in 2 silicone cloths

I believe that some 1916 production was a finish-up of pistols/parts begun in 1914 and never finished that year before the plant went into full Kar98 production in 1915.

A nice Luger. You did nice for your first Luger purchase.
Welcome to the hobby.

Douglas

thanks

I finaly shot it last week end i just put a box through her every thing was great .

I first loaded it up and said to my self god for bid if something breaks just because of the numbers !

I never did ask what do you guys think its worth I did some work for the seller about 12 hours + 100.00 in suplies + 600.00 cash out of my pocket.