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vernonsmith 08-27-2009 10:24 PM

Black plastic mag bases
 
Can anyone advise when the black plastic mag bases (no number at bottom) were used in? Were they ONLY in the code 42 Lugers? Or code S/42 and byf as well?

Thanks in advance.

MFC 08-28-2009 12:49 AM

Vernon,
I beleive they were issued sometime during 41 - 42 production and continued until the end of 42 BYF production. I dont think they are correct for S/42.

Frank 08-28-2009 10:33 AM

It is my belief that the black plastic bottom fxo magazines were introduced after the U-Block of the 41 byf production and supplied until the end of Luger production. Blank (un-numbered) aluminum bottom fxo magazines were supplied in the early part of this time frame, as well.

This theory is also supported by some of the more knowledgeable Luger collectors, BUT not all.

MFC 08-28-2009 10:40 PM

Frank,
I'm sure you are correct. I used Aaron's Standard Catalog of Lugers for reference. I know that there are many mistakes in it.
Were the black plastic bottom mag and black plastic grips issued at the same time, or did one show up before the other?
I'm sure the confusion is from people changing there original wood grips and aluminum bottomed mags to plastic, to make a "BW".

Frank 08-29-2009 10:33 AM

Mike, it's my understanding that the grips and bottoms were authorized in July 1941.

MFC 08-30-2009 03:56 AM

Frank,
Thanks.

Lugerdoc 08-30-2009 09:39 AM

Mike, I doubt that there was any correlation of the BP grips (have read that these were used as available from late 1939) and the BP mag bottoms. TH

Mike B 08-30-2009 10:00 AM

Greetings,
I have a 1940 dated 42 code with black plastic grips and a matching aluminum bottom mag. The grips are the correct type for the year and certainly look original to me.

Mike

Frank 08-30-2009 11:13 AM

Hi All, for those that have 1939, 1940 or early 1941 Military Mauser Lugers with Black "Bakelite" Grips and wish to think they are original, so be it. :nono:

HOWEVER, there is absolutely no proof they were installed by the Mauser Factory. They easily could be armorer replacements or replaced post war. :banghead:

Mike B 08-30-2009 09:38 PM

Frank,
Please read this thread on Jan Still's forum.

Mike
http://luger.gunboards.com/showthrea...eferrerid=1734

Frank 08-31-2009 10:25 AM

:banghead: Mike B, I participated in that study!! Please again read my comments above.

"HOWEVER, there is absolutely no proof they were installed by the Mauser Factory. They easily could be armorer replacements or replaced post war." :banghead:

I once owned a 1917 DWM with proper Bakelite Grips. Then according to the data, these grips were used as far back as 1917??


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