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Muntzster@gmail.com 07-06-2009 06:02 PM

New to lugers: Need help with two identifications please
 
My grandfather is currently storing two lugers at my house. I have always wanted to know more about them and I've been told this is the place to look.

The images are in my albums. The .22 came in the styrofoam box its shown in.

The 9mm has the leather holster, ammo, and an extra clip (broken).

Any information on these two weapons would be awesome.

I am currently trying to place the pictures into my post.

.22

http://forum.lugerforum.com/picture....&pictureid=618

http://forum.lugerforum.com/picture....&pictureid=619

http://forum.lugerforum.com/picture....&pictureid=620

http://forum.lugerforum.com/picture....&pictureid=621

http://forum.lugerforum.com/picture....&pictureid=622

9mm

http://forum.lugerforum.com/picture....&pictureid=628

http://forum.lugerforum.com/picture....&pictureid=629

http://forum.lugerforum.com/picture....&pictureid=630

http://forum.lugerforum.com/picture....&pictureid=631

http://forum.lugerforum.com/picture....&pictureid=632

http://forum.lugerforum.com/picture....&pictureid=633

http://forum.lugerforum.com/picture....&pictureid=634

http://forum.lugerforum.com/picture....&pictureid=635

http://forum.lugerforum.com/picture....&pictureid=636

http://forum.lugerforum.com/picture....&pictureid=637

http://forum.lugerforum.com/picture....&pictureid=638

http://forum.lugerforum.com/picture....&pictureid=641

http://forum.lugerforum.com/picture....&pictureid=643

http://forum.lugerforum.com/picture....&pictureid=644

http://forum.lugerforum.com/picture....&pictureid=645

http://forum.lugerforum.com/picture....&pictureid=646

http://forum.lugerforum.com/picture....&pictureid=647

http://forum.lugerforum.com/picture....&pictureid=648

Ice 07-06-2009 06:54 PM

Your 42 byf was made by Mauser and is a very desirable model; it looks to be in great condition too. Can't identify the holster but your broken magazine can be easily repaired by simply installing a replacement wood bottom or probably even by removing the pin holding the broken piece and glueing the two broken pieces together. Then just reinstall with the pin.

Your Erma .22 is also a very desirable model and should make a fun and reliable shooter. It was actually made in Germany and has the same great handling qualities as the full sized Luger.

I would say that you have lots of shooting/collecting fun in your future as well as the start of a fine collection.

edit: You will probably find that Winchester full metal ball will feed better in your byf 42 than the Norma soft points although you might be surprised to find that they will work fine also.

Charlie

Edward Tinker 07-06-2009 08:06 PM

I am not much of a shooter of collectable guns, and although some folks will say that parts don't break often, but I have broken a breachblock, luckily it was already on a shooter.

So, point is, your byf 42 is probably worth $1500 and if you broke any numbered part, the value could go from $1500 to $600-$800...

The holster is not for a luger, and I am not sure what it is for.


Ed

lugerholsterrepair 07-06-2009 08:20 PM

The holster is for a Radom, It has been cut however for a Luger mag and ruined to some extent.

Jerry Burney

Frank 07-06-2009 08:23 PM

Your holster appears to be for a Radom, Mod 35p.

Your Luger, as mentioned, was made by Mauser and completed around April 1942. Nice pistol.

Hope this helps!

Darn it, Jerry is just a little faster today!

DavidJayUden 07-06-2009 08:48 PM

Should there be a bore diameter under the number on the barrel and do the grips look correct?
DJU

cma22inc 07-06-2009 10:25 PM

Remember it's not a good idea to store a firearm in a leather holster as it can cause rust due to the moisture held in the leather. ;)

Muntzster@gmail.com 07-06-2009 11:40 PM

Thank you for the valuable information everyone, I also have a colt .32 here that I don't know too much about. Is it possible that the holster belongs to it?

I definitely won't be shooting either of these, I find them much more valuable as a collectors item than a shooter.

wlyon 07-07-2009 01:09 AM

The holster as Jerry and Frank stated is for a Polish Radom. Very nice luger. The plastic bottom mag. is correct for your luger. The wood bottom one is for earlier lugers (primarily ww1). Welcome to the Forum. Bill

Lugerdoc 07-07-2009 09:23 AM

M, Since most of your questions have been answered above, I can only add that the mag spring should be installed in your WW1 mag with the spring guide at the TOP. I do have new perfect unmarked wood mag bottoms available @$35 + $3 S&H. The Erma LA model 64, likes standard velocity ammo and is worth about $250 LNIB. TH

Frank 07-07-2009 09:51 AM

DJU, the barrel is correct. Mauser stopped marking the bore diameter about the Middle D-Block in 1942.

DavidJayUden 07-07-2009 10:14 AM

Thank you for the information.
DJU

Edward Tinker 07-07-2009 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank (Post 161873)
DJU, the barrel is correct. Mauser stopped marking the bore diameter about the Middle D-Block in 1942.

Frank, I will add this to the FAQ; thanks again :)

Here is what i wrote:


Quote:

45. Were all luger barrels marked with the land to land measurement (i.e. 8,82, 8,83, etc)?

Most lugers were marked, there are exceptions; such as

Mauser stopped marking the bore diameter about the Middle D-Block in 1942.
QUESTION? What other guns don't have land to land measurements?

Commericial models?

Dutch?

What else?

Ed


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