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cprosperi 05-05-2009 01:08 PM

Could anybody help me?
 
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Dear Sirs,
It was a great pleasure for me finding this Luger forum, which I have recently joined.
I own a Swiss Luger that my father obtained in Buenos Aires from an officer of the Graff Spee at the end of the war.

Following yor Luger identification form, these are its characteristics:
1.Toggle inscription: DWM
2.Chamber inscription: Swiss Cross
3.Toggle knob type: Dished
4.Grip safety: present
5.Stock lug: not present
6.Caliber: 7.65 mm / .30 luger
7.Grip type: walnut, checkered
8.Thumb safety: safe in forward position
9.Has no markings, only serial numbers: 37198 is under the barrel; 98 is repited on the dismounting lever and the side plate on the left.
10.Barrel: 4 inches
11.Markings on left edge of extractor: none
12.Front and rear sights: fixed
13.Magazine bottom plug material and markings: has three magazines, two have wood bottom plugs and the other is in alluminium. No markings in anyone

The bluing is original and I would say is 98%. Working conditions are excellent too: I shoot about two boxes of Lapua FMJ bullets without a single jam and a nice grouping at 15 and 30 mts.

I know this is an early Luger, but I would like to get the probable year of manufacture. Also, I would greatly appreciate if you could tell me the approximate value, just as a curiosity, because I am not willing to sell it by the moment.

Please, find attached some pictures.

Thanking you in advance for your courtesy, I remain yours sincerely,

Dr. Carlos Prosperi
C�³rdoba, Argentina

Navy 05-05-2009 02:10 PM

Welcome to the forum Doc.
Hard to say exactly without better pictures, but I'd bet your pistol is a 1900 Swiss.

Interesting that a privately purchased piece would be on a Kriegsmarine man-o-war.
If you have some documentation from your father, the German, or whomever, your gun would have serious value as a historic artifact. Without the documentation, in the condition you describe, the gun should command Between $5500 and $6500 USD.

Hope this helps.
Tom A

cprosperi 05-05-2009 02:57 PM

Tom,
Thanks a lot for your answer.
Unfortunatelly I have no documentation about the history of this weapon: just what my father said.
Cheers,
Carlos

WG dog 05-05-2009 03:36 PM

Dr. Prosperi,

You could check the Swiss Luger offerings at Simpson to help determine what you have and what it might be worth, at high end retail.

Gene

http://www.simpsonltd.com/index.php?...96356c5410879b

I would love to visit Argentina. One of these days....

Dwight Gruber 05-05-2009 09:06 PM

By serial number, this gun should be a model 1906 Swiss Commercial. Could you please report if the gun has crown/B, c/U, c/G proofs?

If so, this gun was likely made in 1908.

--Dwight

cprosperi 05-06-2009 06:29 PM

Hi everyone.
Gene, if you visit Argentina you should go to the Army Museum in Buenos Aires. They have very interesting pieces.
Dwight, I am sorry, but do not have that info.
Thanks again,

Carlos

Ron Wood 05-06-2009 07:05 PM

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Dr. Prosperi
Your information is a bit of a puzzle. The photos are too small to determine any detail. You state that the toggle knobs are dished, which would indicate a Model 1900 as Tom guessed. However, the serial number falls well within the Model 1906 range as Dwight indicated.
Does the right side toggle knob look like the following photo?


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