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HisSoldier 01-30-2009 11:57 PM

converting Interarms P-08 to non-grip safety.
 
Well, since the gun is my shooter and I'm sick of the abominable grip safety (actually should be called "hand pincher") I'm pretty determined to replace the grip safety. Can I simply swap out original safety lever and bar after plugging the forward half of the frame slot so the bar can't go forward? I understand that the "Gesichert" will be in the wrong position but expect to simply paint red enamel over it to signify "unsafe".
Ok, I would also like to preserve the return of the gun to original condition upon later sale, which is why I don't want to mill the Gesichert away, or alter the safety lever and (long pivoting) bar that came with the gun. The grip slots would be fitted with small removable walnut block fillers.

Can anyone tell me about this? I did a search and can't find the info.
Thanks so much.

Lugerdoc 01-31-2009 07:38 AM

HS, In addition to replacing the grip safety with the standard PO8 safety lever & bar (fitting required as no hole in frame for a pin to hold lever in) you will have to replace the trigger bar (sear) with one with the proper angle for the forward sloping safety bar. TH

Vlim 01-31-2009 10:34 AM

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The easiest way is to modify the safety to a P08-style Mauser Parabellum configuration.
The P08-style Mauser Parabellum (commemoratives, etc...) had a modified grip safety with the exposed grip area removed and an altered safety catch that pushed the safety downwards.

HisSoldier 01-31-2009 07:05 PM

Vlim, This sounds very easy. But you are relying on the return spring to make it safe? Not a big problem, in fact the Gesichert would be in the right place as well if I see you idea correctly, no? Lever up allows the bar to move upwards and back?

HisSoldier 01-31-2009 08:44 PM

Well I'm tickled pink! I took it apart, sliced the grip part off the bar and then heated the bar red where the "safety ledge" stuck out, it's punched to stick out .045" or so. While red I hammered the ledge back flush. Then I carefully scribed where the pin should stick up, drilled it and tig welded a .094" diameter pin. Then I simply ground a cam shape on the lower area of the safety so it cams the pin down and forward. Works absolutely great!
The Gesichert is indeed backwards, but hey, I'm stoked!http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/c...tion/safe1.jpg
http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/c...tion/safe2.jpg
http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/c...tion/safe3.jpg
Thanks Vlim, in 1975 I told my wife I wanted one of these, and figured I could get rid of that stupid grip safety even back them, she worked as a motel maid for a long time to buy one for me. In 1976 when we were ready to buy one we couldn't find one! Fast forward 33 years and another dream is complete! Now I just need to fill the slots in the grips.

Vlim 02-01-2009 06:27 AM

Nice work!

Mauser did consider reintroducing the original P08-style design, some reworked design drawings from that era survived. According to himself, Prof. Dr. Rolf Gminder, then technical manager of the handgun branch, came up with the idea to keep the basic grip safety pattern and modify it, much like you did, instead. Very cost effective, no complicated parts changes and (re)tooling required.

lfid 02-01-2009 01:56 PM

nice conversion !!!

thanks for the exc pictures

Bill


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