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VN Vet 01-19-2009 06:45 PM

Pistols with all correct numbers, but..
 
I see people wanting various P08 parts, toggles, side plates, magazines, etc. with numbers that match the last two numbers of their serial numbers.

If such parts are eventually found and installed on their P08 does this constitute fraud if adverrtised for sale with all matching numbers? Yes the numbers match, but isn't the pistol still a parts pistol and decreases the value accordingly?

How do you tell if this is done on a pistol?

LugerVern 01-19-2009 07:30 PM

All matching can be a good indication a gun is all original but it can also be miss leading.

With just a little study you can tell a DWM font from a Mauser or Simson or HK part, so the mixing of manufacture parts isn't a real problem. For example an Imperial DWM "3" will usually have a rounded top and one from Mauser a flat one. The sear bar on a DWM will be SN stamped on the upper step and one from Mauser on the lower step.

Finding a correct part both in manufacture, SN and time is a difficult thing to do. The odds are against you, yes is does happen but with very low frequency. In cases where you suspect a parts gun of original parts you then need to look at the overall condition of the individual parts. If a trigger retains 90% straw and the other straw parts only 40%, you can be pretty sure someone got lucky and found that rare part they needed.
It doesn't happen very often at least not to me :)

Vern

VN Vet 01-19-2009 07:48 PM

Man, do I have a lot of learning to do. Attention to Details. Attention to Details.

Thanks Vern.

alvin 01-19-2009 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LugerVern (Post 153850)
It doesn't happen very often at least not to me :)

I believe it's less common on 95% (and up) blued guns, but more common on lower blued guns. On higher guns, that "skin cancer" is the main concern, on lower guns, ....., originally I thought lower ones are less troublesome, but found that's not neccessarily to be true, the "organ" could be an issue. Each range has each range's headache. There are also guns with mixed "symptoms".


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