WWII Vintage Ammo
 

Hello, all.....
I recently obtained a box of 16 rounds of WWII-era ammunition, to display with my Luger (thanks, Russ....:))
These are lacquered steel cases with iron core bullets.

Is there a point at which ammunition of this type becomes unstable or is simply a danger to someone, due to it's age?

These rounds look as though they were made yesterday, and have no outward signs of deterioration, but I thought that I would err on the side of caution, and check with the experts here.

Here are some photos of the ammo in question.

Thanks,
Bob.

http://www.cameraops.com/EK1/LugerAmmo1.jpg

http://www.cameraops.com/EK1/LugerAmmo2.jpg

http://www.cameraops.com/EK1/LugerAmmo3.jpg

http://www.cameraops.com/EK1/LugerAmmo4.jpg

http://www.cameraops.com/EK1/LugerAmmo5.jpg

As long as the cases have no corrosion, ammo will keep indefinately....HOWEVER, the primers are likely corrosive, so if you do fire them, make sure you clean the barrel with a water soluable solution (soapy water, or a mix of alcohol, water, and ammonia based "windex"....

....my thanks!

Bob.

If I were you I would keep that WWII ammo as a collectible and not shoot it. It will go up in value and is not being made anymore. Shoot some modern ammo through your gun or make some handloads if you handload for the gun as they will not be corrosive either.

I agree about not firing them. This stuff is not exactly rare yet, but it has a collector value.

The problem with steel cases is that they will corrode from the inside out. A steel cased round that looks pretty decent on the outside may be virtually eaten away on the inside. Some guys at the IAA cartridge collector's forum have observed this in the past.

Since they will not blow up by themselves that easily, I'd keep them stored in normal gun storage conditions.

faa is the ordnance code of DWM by the way. The cases were made by DWM, the cartridges were loaded by RWS, whose ordnance code was dnh.

Thanks, everyone.....I never had any intentions of firing this ammunition. I was only concerned about it's stability, as far as keeping it out on display.

I bought it specifically for display purposes, and that's where it will stay...:))

Cheers,
Bob.

From someone who has seen his part of western movies (hence my avatar), the trick of tossing a round on the fire.. pointing towards the place where the bad guy is sitting and then go bang-killing the bad guy and saving the day. Is not very realistic ;)
Same goes for your vintage rounds, if they should somehow go off outside a chamber, there is not that much punch in them.

Like when I was working in the military, we had a big fire at the shooting range where empty boxes of ammunition where tossed in. Solidiers and officers standing around, warming themselves in the freezing temperatures in northern Norway. Somehow one or more boxes of .308win rounds where tossed into, many of us where hit by fragments, including me. But non of them penetrated trough our clothes, just didn't have the speed to cause any injury at all. When we later dug out the box, most of the rounds still had the bullet intact and with the shell split up.
I would think the same goes for 9mm ammunition, if it should explode outside a chamber, it could expand in all directions making it quite harmless.
One exception would be the .22 caliber rounds, heard they can bite even outside a chamber..

I have a ton of US army issue 45 ammo from the early 50's and shoot it all the time in one of my old army 45's and never an issue with it. Of course it was sealed in a metal 1000k round can for most of the 50 years and only exposed to moisture when opened from time to time. Boxes and ammo still looks like new and fires like new, however they do have corrosive primers so cleaning the gun right away is mandatory after firing. If I only had 16 rounds and that box I would hold on them and not even consider firing them.

Just out of curiosity, could you share how much a box of that ammo might cost? I dont think I have seen much of the 16 rd boxes on auction boards.

Thanks!

It's not that expensive, expect to pay about twice the amount you'd pay for new commercial 9mm. Of course, there are exceptions (rarity, etc..), but as a general ball park figure it should be ok.

One caution if shooting the WW2 ammo with black painted bullets: this is steel armour peircing and not easy on bores or metal back stops. Learned that the hard way, TH

I paid 25.00 per box for the boxes that I have....:)

Cheers,
Bob.

Hang on to it, I'm currently seeking a black 'iron under' or other single cartridges for display, and only seem to find full boxes fs.

Thanks for sharing photos.

Quick note, I think any German 9mm ammo after 1944 has the iron core (m E - mit Eisenkern) but no longer had the black tip.

But its sintered iron - compressed powdered iron. No direct experience on how hard it is but as always I will defer to those with direct experience.