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Grasshopper 12-03-2008 12:11 PM

French made Walther PP
 
I just bought a Walther PP in 7.65 mm (.32 ACP). On the left side, it has the markings of Manurhin - Made in France. It also states 'MANUFACTURE DE MACHINES - Du Haut-rhin.

The importer is C.A.I. Georgia VT., and the s.n. is 865XX.

I have two questions regarding this pistol:

The first question is, what is the date, or approximate date of manufacture?

The second question regards ammo. In .32 ACP, I usually shoot Wolf fmj (brass), or Magtech fmj. I also just picked up some Blazer fmj. However, I also have some S&B fmj which is a bit hotter (according to the ballistic charts). I've therefore been reluctant to shoot it in any of my older .32 ACP pistols. Would the standard S&B fmj be too hot for this Walther?

Any info will be greatly appreciated.

THANKS!

Edward Tinker 12-03-2008 01:05 PM

There are PP guys here on the forum, but our sister website is devoted to P38's and PP/PPK's; www.p38forum.com


Ed

Grasshopper 12-03-2008 03:04 PM

Thanks! I will check them out.

Grasshopper 12-03-2008 05:14 PM

Tac, thank you for the information, that helps! It IS in fact in very good condition, and I'm looking forward to shooting it soon...

THANKS!

Lugerdoc 12-05-2008 09:58 AM

Rather than debate with the "Tac man" here, I think that you will get more accurate info at www.P38forum.com TH

John Sabato 12-05-2008 10:12 AM

Huh? ...debate? ...what debate? :confused:

Vlim 12-05-2008 10:28 AM

Well,

Actually Mauser was occupied by the French and made pistols in their own company, mainly using available spare parts between 1945 and 1948. So the 'French Mausers' were all made in Oberndorf am Neckar in the original Mauser plant. There is still some debate over a small batch of French P08's that may have been assembled outside Mauser but no documented proof has surfaced about that piece of history (yet).

After WW2, the military contractors like Walther and Mauser were forbidden to make guns in certain (military) calibers. Walther focused on air guns and Mauser was kindly put out of business by the French, for they blew up most of the buildings and shipped out the machinery.

Manurhin indeed started producing the Walther PP/K under license from Walther with the understanding that, once the ban on German gun production was over, Walther would resume production themselves.

Manurhin later stepped in as a production partner for Mauser, producing most parts of the HSc pistols in the 1970s.

Grasshopper 12-05-2008 04:54 PM

Well, I've had the post in on the other site for a couple of days now, and I've not yet received a response. I guess we will see....

Lugerdoc 12-06-2008 10:29 AM

Grasshopper, Per the info in Dieter Marschall's book, your pistol was made about 1960. Post WW2 all of the PP & PPK pistol parts were made in France by Manurhin beginning in 1986 some of these parts were shipped to Germany to be marked and assembled as Walthers. TH


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