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daskraut 10-12-2008 12:08 PM

Another newb with unk P08, pls help!
 
I bought this pistol in the mid 80's and gave it to a gunsmith who just gave it back yesterday!!. I forgot everything about it, can you please help me identify it?. I also need a barrel as the chamber is very worn out. any and all help would be great. Thanks. DK
Note, this is a duplicate thread, see new collector section please, my mistake.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y27...ysstash021.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y27...ysstash027.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y27...ysstash023.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y27...ysstash028.jpg

daskraut 10-12-2008 12:19 PM

forgot one;
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y27...ysstash033.jpg

GerColctor 10-12-2008 06:49 PM

daskraut

There are no known LP-08 pistols dated 1913. The barrel on your pistol should have the serial number on the bottom, near where it meet the frame. It should be a different number then the one on the frame. The top of the receiver is not cut to accomodate the tangent rear sight, because there is no tangent sight on this pistol.

The barrel appears to be a replacement.

Joe

alanint 10-12-2008 08:52 PM

Interesting barrel witness mark at about the 7 o'clock position.....

daskraut 10-12-2008 08:57 PM

OK, not an LP08, I only know it as a luger!. The barrel/upper receiver has the same s/n on it as the rest of the pistol, no replacement , at least for the part that holds the barrel. I saw no serial number on the barrel itself. So what kind of luger/pistol is it?, at least it is a matching number gun.

Karl 10-12-2008 09:04 PM

Daskraut,

This appears to be a heavily buffed and rusty 1913 DWM Luger with a long aftermarket barrel. Collector value is zero although it could become a good shooter with a little TLC. I do not understand your need for a new barrel because "the chamber is very worn out." Ordinarily the chamber should never wear out. However, new barrels of standard length or longer are available and easy to have replaced (see Lugerdoc on the forum). KFS

daskraut 10-12-2008 09:07 PM

What cut-out do you speak of?, I can see down the sights perfectly.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y27.../luger2002.jpg
This is the s/n barrel pic. What witness marks are at 7 oclock that look odd?

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y27.../luger3004.jpg

Edward Tinker 10-12-2008 09:24 PM

Eustace, welcome to the forum. An original artillery barrel would have an artillery sight, yours does not.

It should also have the serial number and a # such as 8,82 on the bottom of the barrel.

A "normal" witness marking would be in the middle, best way to see it is to do a search here on the forum for "witness markings".

We would apprecaite if you would post pictures here on the forum, not on a web hosting site.

Ed

George Anderson 10-12-2008 11:42 PM

This 1913 p08 is only fit for shooting as is or selling as parts. In my opinion no money should be spent on it at all.

daskraut 10-13-2008 12:08 AM

Jeez George, a tad harsh!. Kinda like saying " that kid is ugly, forget about collage, just put it to sleep!!". Value be damned, I just like the pistol and will gladly spend a little cash on it. What I said about the chamber is exactly the case, where the brass of the round is when a round is chambered, it is oversize and the brass balloons when fired, so a new barrel is needed. I paid $200 for it some years ago so I think for a matching number gun (minus barrel), it is not too bad.

Steinar 10-13-2008 03:19 AM

Sure looks like a barrel witness mark + alignment mark on that 5th picture, but on that last picture it looks more like the signature of bubba's pipe wrench. With a new P08 barrel, it would be a fairly nice Luger for making holes in paper. You may also want to look into replacing the take down lever if it hurt your eyes, personally I would not care.

Vlim 10-13-2008 06:46 AM

I think this gun has some potential as a project gun. George is correct that the collector value disappeared many years ago. But for that price you can certainly afford to play with it a bit.

With a fresh barrel and a reblue job, this gun can have a lot of fun shooter years ahead of it.

Steinar 10-13-2008 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by tacfoley
Careful, Steinar - you are stepping very close to being accused of being a northern German!!!

best

tak

Quatsch! My relatives einfressen sich in the Gletschers during the iceage and found the frozen dinosaurs zu essen.. they never set a FuĂ?? in Germany!

*EDIT-a few minutes later*
Ahh.. now It makes sence, two identical threads! :D
..sorry if I steped on any toes somehow..

daskraut 10-14-2008 12:03 AM

Now tacfoley, you play nice!. It was not your info or opinion that irked me, it was your tone. Not being an american, you are forgiven, esp since english is your 3rd language. As a Bavarian , I find most northern germans to be very cut and dry, like your comments on that other post. I just did not expect the collecter snobbish tone (unintended I am sure) that came across. To me implements like guns, motorcycles and all fun mechanical things we collect should be used, so I was just caught off guard by the collecter tone.

daskraut 10-14-2008 01:27 AM

Now it all makes sense!. a brit??, well either by birth or address, I bet your angry about losing your guns. Me?, I would have started a revolt!!.
"From my cold, dead fingers"

Steinar 10-14-2008 03:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by tacfoley

That is why I visit the US as often as I can - to shoot a couple of Lugers [an S/42 and a Krieghoff], as well as a few other handguns and semi-auto long-arms that were saved before the bans here in yUK.

Alles zum Besten

tac

hmpf.. just an hour flight away from norway.. guess our ranges is not good enough eh? Or is it based upon bad experiences from hairy, smelly, drunken vikings waving around with their axes - stealing gold and women?
(I'm thinking of Champions League of course)

Steinar 10-14-2008 05:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by tacfoley
Steinar, old floon - Norway is just TOOOOOO expensive!

That's why my relatives left there in the 9th century.

tac

yet another *hmpf..*

Oslo - the city where I spend my weekdays.. has been rated worlds most expencive city, and it's not even a perticulary nice city in my eyes :banghead:

Grumpy regards,
Steinar
- who is looking forward to moving back north once his work is complete:rolleyes:

Balder 10-14-2008 01:56 PM

Tac, Steinar, et al;

As previously mentioned, you're more than welcome to the sunny southwestern coast of Norway. Not only is it more scenic than Oslo and eastern Norway, we also have prettier women and better beer. Oh, I almost forgot - better ranges as well.

Tac, if you're worried about the cost you can tent for free in my garden any time; if you come during harvest you can even live off my orchard. I will consider throwing in a steak or two as well. http://forum.lugerforum.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Steinar 10-15-2008 07:28 AM

Balder; I agree on the more beautiful women, scenery, ranges and weather.. but the best beer is found right here bubbling in my bathroom!
This time of year I always make beer and wine for christmas:D

It has been brought up before, but it would have been great to meet up some day, shoot and brag of our lugers + have a taste from the local orchard or bathroom brewery


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