Fraud Alert To All Members
 

Fraud -Alert

If you receive an email from either someone you don't know,


...or an email or private message through the services provided by this website, offering either Luger pistols or accessories for sale, there is a very good chance that the offer is a fraud.

A current method being used by professional scammers trying to get your money is to legitmately join forums and then contact other members through the private message system or through the email link in your profile.

They will likely offer a Luger or some other well known item at a very reasonable cost, and ask you to respond. If they have no postings (which you can check with the search feature) they are likely a fraud. report the user name to either Ed Tinker or myself.

BE VERY CAREFUL OUT THERE> There is reason to believe one of these scams is currently "working" the Lugerforum membership in this manner. Don't let your sense of getting a "great" deal get the best of you.

Ask for photos of the items, a legitimate email address from an ISP that is not one of the free ones like gmail, hotmail, yahoo, etc. A physical mailing address (No P.O. Boxes) that you can verify. Ask for references. AND NEVER PAY VIA Western Union or one of the other instant services ... once that money is gone... it will be gone forever. Remember, if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.

If you have any questions, ask them here.

:grr:

Once you report the user name to us, we can ban them and they no longer have the ability to send emails to folks.

There is no way they can "harvest" emails form this site or Jan Still's site (unless your user name is your email; not a good practice), and they send you a email via the site, and ONLY if you answer back to do they see your email.


Ed

Ed, I know that you can't post after being banned, but I am not sure about the PM and blind email service... we will have to test to see if that 'door' is still open to banned members. If you already have tested, please let me know.

"Thank You John"

dito on the above!

If you are logged out, you get this message; and if banned, I 'll bet you a lunch, the same message (see #4):

My user name is an old unused e:mail address. Please tell me how can I change it.

By writing the owner of the forum, John Dunkle and asking him to change it to a new name.

or since you have 3 posts, re-register using your new email and a NEW user name.


Ed

SCAMMER ALERT!
 

Pawel Nowak is a SCAMMER. Stay away from that slimy bastard. He offers Lugers & German Militaria.
http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/pawel.jpg
http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/pawel1.jpg

yes, we know

..........

Scam goes down something like this;

Hello ...: Thank you for your answer. I have got these items as a payment for my archival research work. But I also detect some places with my metal detector and I have found some items personaly. I am an archivist and I live in Poland. I am 33 and I was educated in the University of Lodz (International Public Law Faculty). But my main interest is archival research. Diving and sailig also. I spend a lof of time in the archives and museums. Where I have a lot of friends. For example I know Cmdr. Ltd. David Watters who was a Deputy Director in National Maritime Museum in London. I have also friends in Ministry of Defence in UK. I am sending to you some of my credentials and references I have got in English archives. I hope it will help to trust me a little. If you will need I can also send to you my EU Passport and EU Driving Licence. The items are located in Poland (EU). So, if you have an interest in the holster/holsters - there shall be no problem for you. I also have two other holsters. Look at the photos. I can sell them for 140US$ each. Frankly, I am looking for someone I could cooperate in the future as I can get more genuine items from my close friends. I am waiting for your answer. All the best. PawelShipwrecks.Research271275@yahoo.com

Attached is some BS I didn't bother to read;
http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload..._defence_1.jpg
http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload..._defence_2.jpg
http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload..._defence_3.jpg
http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload..._defence_4.jpg
http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload...e_museum_1.jpg
http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload...e_museum_2.jpg
http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/richard_larn.jpg
http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/whitby_museum.jpg

:grr:

I especially liked this sentence: "I have also friends in Ministry of Defence in UK" :D


A quick Google search shows that he has been doing it for quite some time http://www.thirdreichmedals.com/pictures/pawel.html

I'm ending my email correspondence with him now, with some words I prefer not to publish

Here is one last URL that substantiates his status as a con man.

http://www.treasurenet.com/f/index.p...9457.msg126118

To help eliminate this fraud, I have sent all of the gathered information on Pawel Tomasz Nowak in a report to INTERPOL via their website.

This sounds more like he's trying to get a date rather than sell something.

To me this screams 'scam artist'. I don't know, maybe I have an ear/eye for this kind of BS. I can't understand how anyone can fall for this kind of thing. To me it is really quite transparent, no better than the stupid nonsense that comes out of Nigeria. And what the hell is "archival research"? That doesn't even mean anything!

I think crimes of fraud should carry a "stupid enhancement". If you insult our intelligence with the complete stupidity of your attempt, you do an extra 20 years!

I received the same email message today from Novwak.
I have a Luger 1916 for sale as well as some Luger parts and Luger holsters. Please send me an email if you have an interest.

I recommend that anyone receiving a private message or email from Mr. Pawel Tomasz Nowak, NOT respond. If he doesn't get any responses he will stop trying HERE.

Tenbears, please advise on what time you received your email? Thanks.

It would be most helpful to know the "user name" and we can then ban them.

Ed,

Wouldn't the guy just rejoin right away with another user name?

yes, and then we ban him, until they get tired of being banned. meanwhile once banned, they can't use that email on this forum.