looking for info
 

not sure what i have.....other than a p08.
first of all i know it has been refinished.

it's a 9mm, has all matching numbers on the gun.
even has a dude's name on the back strap.
it's a DWM. the only other marks i've found are the crown over N.
safety is in german.
old guy i bought it from says it has capture papers, so i expect to have those in a day or so.
it came with a '41 dated holster.

could'nt figure out to post several pics in one post.......

Brian, welcome to the forum! You have to upload upper right, copy the link and then post it into the reply box, for EACH picture.


What I see and hear so far is a commercial 9mm that was taken into military service. See the Crown N on the left and the 5 digit serial number.

Would like to see more pictures.

How far is Lebanon from Philly? I live near Allentown (20 miles south) and work in Bensalem, PA.


ed

what would you like to see?
it has been given a pretty good fluff&buff.
i'm probably 1.5-2hrs from philly, about the same from Atown.

would like to see the "dudes" name on the back, is it scratched like a GI or stamped?


Ed

i'd call it stamped.

Not military marked...Because of the uniformity of the stamping and the fact that it is a German name I would SPECULATE that this was a private purchase firearm by a German soldier, possibly an officer... but that is all specualtion.

can anybody speculate on when it was made?

Looks like a 1914 Commercial. Kind of a scarce gun. (Reporting from a fairly sunny day in Whitehorse, Canada!:))

care to elaborate on the scarce part?

entrance fee was $600.

Obviously I'm not traveling with my reference library, but there weren't very many1913/1914 commercial models produced (something to do with a little skirmish in Europe at that time). Someone else will have to look up the estimated production figures.

Brian,

It may be possible to date the manufacture of your Luger within a couple of years. Please refer to these discussions:

http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthre...ght=frame+spur
http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthre...ght=frame+spur
http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthre...0667#post30667

and report whether your Luger has a straight or spurred recoil spring well; a reinforced or unreinforced frame; and an unrelieved or relieved sear bar. Your observations will help narrow down the time frame.

--Dwight

Brian,
Just a bit of info on the name "M. Huebsch"...the 1914 Rangliste shows only a Reservist Lt Schmitz-Huebsch (44 Fld Arty Regt) in the Imperial Army of 1914. The German Graves Registration has twelve men named M.Huebsch none of whom were officers. The Offizier Ehrenliste 1914-1918 does list one officer named Huebsch. He was an Oblt. (First Lieutenant) in Infantry Regiment 87. He may be your man.

I have a 1914 commercial like yours that is serial numbered 73982 and marked on the front grip strap with the name"NEUFVILLE". I believe that both pistols were probably made in 1914-1915.

very interesting, thank you.
was this man kia? or is there no information reguarding that?

He survived WWI.

Brian, Your reblued frame appears to have been renumbered to match the 1914 Commerical upper, so I would classify as a mismatched shooter. TH

what about it makes you think that?

Brian,

It would be useful to know the serial numbers stamped on the bottom edges of the takedown lever and sideplate, and the number on the trigger (under the sideplate). Also the information I mentioned previously.

--Dwight

90 just like everything else.

here's the spur.