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ejc 05-19-2008 06:25 PM

m 1 carbine
 
Hey.
I just purchased one of those m1 carbines from the cmp. Fun little gun to shoot. On the one I purchased in the cutout area of the stock where the sling goes is a brass plate. The markings are "CC Zogno 5" just wondering if anyone knows what it means. My guess would be that it is some kind of property or unit mark or maybe it means nothing just wondering really. Any help on the matter would be great.
Thanks Ed

John Sabato 05-19-2008 10:52 PM

These carbines were returned from Italy. Zogno is a small town about 35 miles northeast of Milano. The number is either the weapon number, or the unit number. The CC is probably an abbreviation for Carabinieri, which is the Italian National Police, similar to our FBI only most of them are uniformed. They are the agency that deals with everything under national jurisdiction including intelligence, and organized crime.

I haven't been to the town, but lived in northern Italy for amost 7 years, and spent my last two years while in the Army as a tactical liaison and the American communications chief with the Italian Air Force on a Nike Hercules air defense missile base. Seems like a hundred years ago, but I left there in Jan '88

ejc 05-19-2008 11:26 PM

thanks John I just got this gun two days ago and noticed that brass plate and thought someone would know something. I would have never even noticed it in the past but since getting into lugers stuff like that is the first thing I look for
thanks Ed

bmcgilvray 05-20-2008 04:58 PM

I love the M1 Carbine and have enjoyed shooting them for years. I've found them to be very dependable shooters. Only my view but the cartridge is better and more useful than some folks think.

Sure wish you could post a photo of your new Carbine acquisition. I'd like to see one of those CMP Carbines.

ejc 05-20-2008 10:07 PM

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see if this works

ejc 05-20-2008 10:13 PM

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here is the brass plate

ejc 05-20-2008 10:14 PM

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and here is the whole gun

WG dog 05-21-2008 08:12 AM

That's a nice looking carbine! Markings on barrel and receiver?

I'm still trying to understand "high wood" and "low wood" stocks. That's a "low wood" stock?

I've got two Inland carbines. Recently went through pouches and magazines looking for makers' markings.

Pouches:
B.B.S. Co. 1943 (stock)
Pittsburgh Garter Co. 1943 (belt)
J.S.& S. Co. 1943 (stock)
J.Q.M.D. 1942 (stock)
Midland Fabrics Co. 1943 (belt)
Boyt -45- U.S.M.C. N.O.M.-47218 (stock).

Magazines (15rd):
SL (Standard Products)
IA (Inland)
U (Union Hardware)
IU (Underwood)
SC K (on bottom) ?
IW (Winchester)
R-O (Rock-Ola)
KI (Inland)
IS (Standard Products)
UI (Inland)
IU (circled) (Inland or Underwood)?

And some unmarked 30rd magazines.

Picked up the carbines and mags etc about twenty years ago. It was fun to go through the box of mags and pouches to see what was in there. Back then, new in wrap mags were $2 each iirc.

75BShooter 05-21-2008 07:14 PM

WG dog. Regarding your question on the high/low wood stock, from the pictures of ejc carbine I can't tell for sure if it is high or low. However on a low wood stock the cut for the operating rod handle was longer . This exposed the entire operating shaft whereas with a high wood stock the cut wasn't as long and more of the operating shaft was covered by the stock

WG dog 05-22-2008 08:05 AM

Thanks, 75BShooter. But I might have to hold a high wood stock in one hand, and a low wood stock in the other, to understand.:confused: Guessing all the carbines I've seen had high wood stocks.

75BShooter 05-22-2008 04:45 PM

WG dog. Chances are most of the carbines you have seem have
low wood stocks. Many more of them were made.


Tim


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