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Johnny Peppers 10-19-2001 11:42 PM

American Historical Foundation Luger
 
Has everyone seen the ad in new American Rifleman for the latest AHF offering? You can buy an original LP08 embellished with engraving, gold, and (gasp) 4 brilliant cut diamonds. Not only that, but the grips are "deluxe" finished walnut. All this for only $13,995. The bad news is that there are only 25 of these jewels to go around.

What an inglorious end for an old soldier.




Aaron 10-20-2001 02:13 AM

Re: American Historical Foundation Luger
 
We can only hope that the 25 artilleries which were removed from the open market were beat up shooters and of no real collector value.




BILL 10-20-2001 02:17 AM

Re: American Historical Foundation Luger
 
It is hard to imagine taking 25 artilleries, even in sad shape, and forever altering them in such a manner. I doubt that anyone who reads this forum would even want..wonder what kind of guy buys one?




Thor 10-20-2001 02:39 AM

Re: American Historical Foundation Luger
 
Yep, I got my American Rifleman magazine today and saw them, a shame! Thor




Dok 10-20-2001 12:11 PM

Someone with more money than brains... :(
 
I think his name might be Abdul Mustafa Mohammed.




Aaron 10-20-2001 12:27 PM

In defense of novices
 
There are all kinds of so called "collectors" who buy quickly and never give a thought to research. I have met many such well intended people who were completely unaware that such research material even exists. I would bet that every one of us were completely in the dark when we acquired out first Luger. Unfortunately, we have no way to counter such advertisements except through forums such as this.




Viggo G Dereng 10-20-2001 02:46 PM

Re: "A Good Question", Which Comes First?
 
Can caution preceed knowlege or, Must knowlege give rise to caution?

Sadly, Not Always!

Is a Informed man a Wise Man? or visa versa?

Again, Not Always!

It appears that in these days of free informatrion, There still remain those who WILL ACT without forethought!

and,

Inevitably it remains, That, "A Fool and His Money are Soon to be Parted",

Pity Them but,

WE can only ATTEMPT to delay that which is Predestined.

ViggoG




bob regers 10-20-2001 03:50 PM

Re: hISTORICAL lUGER
 
Nothing lasts forever people. In fact it is great in this day that we recognize the wonder and beauty of the parabellum pistole to refinish it in such a glorius and fitting way. War time lugers are butchered and parted out never to be seen again everyday. These are finished numbered docmuneted and will stay single units forever with their value only to increase. If i had 14,000 i would buy one to hold and display and cherish.




Dok 10-20-2001 04:56 PM

Here's the Arty in question...
 
for those of you who don't have access to the ad layout...


It's beautiful alright, but no Arty ever looked like this. If we are going to restore for future preservation as has been suggested, why not restore to original finish like Thor does? Now that would be a better use of an Arty.


Dok




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Big Norm 10-20-2001 05:17 PM

Re: Here's the Arty in question...
 
Where did they put the diamonds?

Big Norm




mlm 10-20-2001 05:35 PM

Re: Here's the Arty in question...
 
These look sort of pretty in the ad but the process by which they are made is more like an assy-line. Were one of these made as a unique piece with a talented and named artist willing to put his/her name on the work AND the engraving was art done with a theme---then such a luger could be interesting. These are made in the 1950s vein when "prettied up" guns were popular. Chrome, vinyl, bright colors, tail fins, shiny six shooters and singing cowboys with fancy outfits--that is the mindset. Mil guns were just cheap junk in those days. There are a few old guys that still think that way but they are dwindling in number.


Actually, less than 25 will probably be made. They don't make one until an order is paid up. The 25 figure is a projection of the max they hope to sell.


The people who bought the $2300 P08's they created probably represented much of their market. When those folks found these things were worth very little--that may have discouraged them. I value these P08s at $190. I think the LP08s would have a bit more value, maybe $240.






Johnny Peppers 10-20-2001 06:12 PM

Re: Here's the Arty in question...
 
I can't remember the name of the mint at the moment, but back several years ago they were famous for offering silver bars commemorating just about everything. They were also sold under the guise of being collectible, and were "almost" sure to increase in value. Today these same silver bars can be bought in quantity for scrap silver prices. I am afraid that the LP08 will someday disappoint any owner who plunked down the $14K necessary to become the proud owner of a pimped up LP08. For the money necessary to own this atrocity you can own several significant Lugers that will not only increase in value over the years, but will also be the centerpiece of any nice collection.




Dok 10-20-2001 10:25 PM

The Franklin Mint... is that them??? :) (EOM)
 

Matt 10-21-2001 02:52 AM

Pimp Luger
 
To paraphrase Gen. Patton, that Luger looks like something "only a cheap pimp from New Orleans" would have!




Viggo G Dereng 10-21-2001 03:56 AM

Re: Thats Them??? :) (EOM)
 

David Jackson 10-21-2001 04:06 AM

Re: Thats Them??? :)
 
This pimp could buy two or three of them and have them silver soldered to the fenders of his Clenet car.




Viggo G Dereng 10-21-2001 05:00 AM

Re: U-R-Right,Fender Do-Dads,Thats all!!! (EOM)
 

Johnny Peppers 10-21-2001 11:50 AM

Re: The Franklin Mint... is that them??? :)
 
Dok,

That the folks.





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