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byerseller 01-09-2008 03:09 PM

Military or Police Luger???
 
Hi, I am having problems identifying my Luger. The toggle is marked S/42 (Mauser Werke). The frame is marked with a double date 1920 (DWM or Erfurt Arsenal) and has matching numbers on all parts including the magazine 4171. There are three eagles (not stick wings) on the right side of the frame with what looks like Af A. IX under their legs. The barrel has a nitro proof. The grips are Bakelite not wood. The gun is in super shape. I took it to a gun show and a Luger dealer told me it was either a military or police pistol and he had no idea on value (he took maybe 10 seconds to look at my Luger). Any help on clarifying what I have would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Steinar 01-09-2008 03:22 PM

Welcome,
sounds like your luger is a mix of various parts, at least the frame is not 'matching' to the toggle.
The grips can be worth quite a bit btw. If you take close pictures of both sides, we can determine if they look original or not.

You say the frame is marked 1920, but I quess you mean the receiver (barrel extension)? If not, you may look for a crown/U on the left side. If so, the upper would come from a police Luger.

byerseller 01-09-2008 04:03 PM

Thanks for your help. I'll try to reduce the size of my pictures and attach them. Thanks Steinar!

John Sabato 01-09-2008 04:48 PM

Welcome to the Lugerforum. Good clear photos of both sides, the top, and the front of the frame would go a long way to answering your questions.

byerseller 01-09-2008 07:20 PM

Thanks for the welcome! Here's some pics:
http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload...lugera_004.jpg
http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload..._002_copy1.jpg
http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload...lugera_005.jpg
http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload...lugera_003.jpg
http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload...lugera_006.jpg


Thanks a bunch!

Edward Tinker 01-09-2008 07:35 PM

Welcome to the forum.


Your luger has a lot of history. Made in 1920, it was also Reichswehr property stamped 1920. Then in the 1930's it received a sear safety, most likely served during WW2, and was reissued by the East German police after WW2.




Ed

Dwight Gruber 01-09-2008 08:08 PM

John,

A vey nice example of a DVP Luger. It looks to me that the sideplate is original, the top appears to be cut for the sear safety. The DVP (Deutsches Volkspolizei) did not favor the sear safety, and this one, characteristically, has been removed.

What are the markings on the underside of the barrel?

--Dwight

byerseller 01-09-2008 08:14 PM

Dwight, the underside of the barrel have a crown with a "N" under it. I read that this means "nitro" but I don't know what that means. I bought the gun in 1986 at a sporting goods store in Denver for $250. I wonder what the value of it is today....any ideas? Thanks

byerseller 01-09-2008 08:15 PM

And thanks ED!

Dwight Gruber 01-09-2008 08:49 PM

John,

What are the numbers on the barrel? Most DVP Lugers were rebarrelled, the c/N proof is probably the East German commercial proof. If this is the case, the number--in the form of month and year--is the date of the rebarrel.

Your gun has easily tripled in value.

--Dwight

byerseller 01-09-2008 08:54 PM

Dwight, no numbers at all on the barrel. Only the crown with a "N". Thanks, I shoot this gun about every other year and it is great!. Thanks


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