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Ron 12-01-2007 10:17 PM

Help With New Purchase
 
A friend has just bought a 1911 ERFURT with all matching numbers for $1000.00 and is wondering if he got a good deal. Also would appreciate any information and comments about the gun

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s/n 1944 with no suffix

Toggle inscription - 44 Erfurt with proof similar to # 18 (see picture)

Chamber inscription - 1911

Grip Safety - not present

Stock lug - not present

Caliber - 9mm

Grip Type - appear to be plastic

Thumb Safety - Safe in foreard position

Markings - The marking found in the picture above of the trigger guard appears only there. It appears to be a crown over a fancy "H".
The markings found on the right side of the chamber pictured above is also found seven other times on the gun. It is similar to # 18 but is a crown over a "d" or "c".

Barrel length - 4 inches

Marking on the edge of the extractor - similar tp #18 and the number 44

Front sight - adjustable left and right no markings at all

Rear sight - the last to numbers of th;e s/n (44) and a marking similar to number 18 mentiones above

Magazine - wood tip with no s/n

Percentage of bluing - at least 95 % very very good

Perventage of hte strawig - at least 95 % very very god

Condition of bore - very good

All Matching numbers

Your responsed will be appreciated

Thanks

Ron

Edward Tinker 12-01-2007 10:49 PM

Ron, if all original then $1k is a heck of a deal. However, I would say it has been reblued and restrawed. The strawing appears too nice for a 95 year old gun IMHO and blueing is awfully nice too. Also, the sideplate should have an Erfurt acceptance marking, it would look like the one on the front of the triggerguard.

The grips appear to be nice wood ones to me, a picture from the rear would prove or disprove that.

There were 10,000 1911 Erfurt's made, so not a common gun to pick up.


Ed

wdavid431 12-02-2007 07:24 AM

This is really a nice looking pistol, congrats to your friend. This is a very nice find.

Karl 12-02-2007 10:03 AM

Ron,

I concur with Ed's assessment that the gun has been refinished and enhanced with a "matching" DWM side plate. In addition, the gun appears to have been buffed fairly heavily. Note the rounded corners, and most especially the obliterated rectangular to round chamfer at the front of the receiver and the completely buffed out Erfurt eagle in front of the other proof marks. In addition, there should be Erfurt proofmarks on the extractor and front sight which are not visible in the photos but may be present. Sorry but this is not a collector grade luger. FYI, I have a buffed, mismatched 1911 Erfurt as well - a nice shooter. The great thing about shooters is that you can shoot them - enjoy. KFS


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