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Pete Ebbink 08-05-2007 09:39 PM

Test Eagle SN 7050 Photos...
 
http://www.rockislandauction.com/vie...=41&iid=200725

Ron Wood 08-05-2007 11:22 PM

Very interesting. Number 7050 was offered by Jerry Hubbard Collectable Firearms in August 2004 for $4250 and was listed at 80% condition, no pitting, and having a Marbles front sight. Sure must have seen some hard times since then.

Edward Tinker 08-06-2007 09:46 AM

It is interesting how guns change. I have a Simson that I bought, on some old dealer lists, it was listed as matching magazine and nice finish, something like 85% or better finish. When I bought it, many years later; the finish was / is gray, very light. I have to assume it was blued up by artificial means and then cleaned by the next owner??

Now, it is well worn, but looks original...

Ed

cirelaw 08-14-2007 06:26 PM

I have to commend our felllow Historial, such as Ed and Dwight, I have a bet on how high the serial number for legitimate serial numbers can be found. I would ask either of you what is the highest known Test Luger currently stands. It runs till the end of the year! ps a handshake and a mag. tks Eric, Esq.

Ron Wood 08-14-2007 07:02 PM

I'm not Ed or Dwight, but your question is an easy one. The highest "legitimate" (i.e. verifiable as a Test Luger) 1900 U.S. Test Trials Luger is #7147, which is the highest serial number in the Bannerman purchase.

cirelaw 08-20-2007 05:47 PM

Case Closed!

Pete Ebbink 09-02-2007 01:47 PM

Saved these SN 7050 photos...

Give it a year or two and it may resurface at an original 96%...:D

Pete Ebbink 10-26-2007 08:43 PM

SN 7050 went on the RIA auciton site for $ 1725.00 plus fees. Lit # 3707 from the 9-2007 auction.

Bessler had it for sale a month or so later for $ 2950...looks like it is sold/reserved.

http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload...est_7050_1.jpg

http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload...est_7050_2.jpg

http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload...est_7050_3.jpg

policeluger 10-26-2007 09:00 PM

Pete, it was offered at $2995.00.....

Mike B 10-26-2007 10:51 PM

Gentlemen,
It is now my second test eagle. The first is serial number 7021 and now I have 7050. Not too far apart considering 1000 pistols and over 100 years and then end up in the same collection.

Mike

LugerVern 10-27-2007 12:48 AM

Mike

With two Test Eagles in hand and so close to each other can you tell us if there is any discernible difference between the two?

I am always interested in internal markings (worker marks), sort of a hobby of mine.


Thanks

Vern

Pete Ebbink 10-27-2007 12:42 PM

Mike,

Glad to see it found a home. I was worried it would have been recycled through the "shops" in the USA and resurface as an "attic" find gun with a price tage of $ 8K...

This gun was sort of screaming "...do me..."...

Mike B 10-27-2007 01:08 PM

Vern,
Holding the two Lugers side by side, it is apparent that one has a patina tint and the other a faded blue tint. I am not sure of the reason for the difference. Upon disassembly, the two Lugers are identical, except #7050 has a broken main spring and broken ejector. Both have the infamous "flaming bomb" in the well and also on the underside of the receiver. There are no other inspectors' marks or proof marks on the Luger. #7050 (the latest one) does have an aftermarket front sight, but that can be easily corrected. I have no intention of shooting this Luger, so replacement of the main spring can wait until one comes along. Both of these Lugers exhibit the kind of wear one would expect a "test" pistol to have. Both are very honest Lugers and represent a piece of American History and I am proud to be their keeper.

Pete,
Where were you in Tulsa? I looked for you with no luck. Don't worry about this Luger being redone. The only thing it will get is a needed repair job and a good home.

Mike

http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/test_eagle.jpg
http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/test_eagle2.jpg
http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/test_eagleaa.jpg
http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/test_eagleab.jpg

Pete Ebbink 10-27-2007 03:40 PM

Mike,

You might have me confused with another...???

Tulsa has been off my dance-card...for the past couple of years...

SOS in Feb. seems to be the only show I look forward to...

LugerVern 10-27-2007 06:07 PM

Mike

Nice !

Thanks for the Show & Tell, I would not worry much about the difference between the tints, it is really hard to tell if some of the very early guns have been touched up at some time with cold bluing, many have, even though we like to think otherwise.

I have purchased some really dry guns that have been a very clear gray tint and have been surprised as they take on a different shade of blue gray after several weeks/months of being oiled regularly. Some sort of chemical reaction taking place I think when the rust bluing is protected from the air. This may be what youâ??re seeing and have nothing to do with a touch-up.

Thanks again for the pictures and comparison, I like your guns, wish they were mine. :)

Vern

Pete Ebbink 10-27-2007 09:04 PM

Mike,

Curious to note how the last two sellers described some flaws with the gun :

RIA mentions only a "chip in the extractor"...which I never saw on their photos.

Bessler mentions a "weak mainspring", and a "period of use replacement ejector".

Mike B 10-27-2007 09:38 PM

Pete,
Quite honestly I was pleasantly surprised when I received the Luger from Randy. It is not in bad condition at all. The three problems can be easily corrected. I have a front sight coming from Tom and I opted to put off the main sping and ejector until later, as I certainly will not be shooting this Luger. But I must agree, there is vast difference in various appraisals and fortunately the difference was a positive one on this Luger.
Mike

Pete Ebbink 10-28-2007 11:43 AM

Mike,

An original flat main spring was running on Gun Broker last week.

I bid $ 60 and did not hit the reserve. Seller told me his reserve was at $ 125.

Just think a couple of years ago at Tulsa you could find them for $ 10-25 if you looked hard enough in the misc. parts bins.

MFC 10-28-2007 12:08 PM

If it's not a rusted and pitted piece of junk, nowadays $125 is a good price.
Mike C.

Mike B 10-28-2007 11:18 PM

For what it is worth, I just noticed my first test Eagle, no. 7021 is only 3 numbers away from one of the test Eagles in the Springfield Armory National Museum. It is serial number 7018.

Mike


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