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Looks like it might be a gas pistol, or a "knallpistole" starter or signal gun.

It might also be a theatrical pistol... intended to only make noise on stage.

It looks like my Italian made Gas pistol. Ask me how I know???? My uncle gave it to me and pulled the trigger playing around. My eyes watered for about 15 minutes. It works. Hahahahahaha. Rick

Have found internet references to Keenfire blank cartridges and Keenfire airguns.
Also Keenfire ammunition (38 S&W) from the Keystone Cartridge Company.
All of these pretty much dead-ended.

i have ask in an other forum, someone give me an mail, from somebody who build it.

i will post it here.

From further study of the photos, it is pretty obvious that this "pistol" was designed only to make noise. the "hole" where the muzzle should be is only about .25 inch deep and the hole out the top goes through to the "cylinder" which likely holds blanks that release the noise or bang out of the top.

Theatrical or athletic event starter gun is the only explanation in my opinion.

exactly, thats what i heard in the other forum, its a (Starterpistole 6mm Flobert) Startpistol

Repeating Blank Firing Pistol

Looks like the Germans made quite a few of these "top venting" pieces. Here are pics of a working Perfecta, tube fed, semi-auto, 6mm blank firing pistol. I auctioned it a while back, I think it fetched about $70. Some info here:

http://www.carl-walther.de/englisch/chronik/

"The sale of the firm to the UMAREX group of companies in 1993 signalized the beginning of a new era in the history of Walther. To be exact, one has to say that the origins of the UMAREX company are also closely related with Walther. In 1937 Walther Riem, a managing executive of Walther at Zella-Mehlis, was given the permission by the management to manufacture a blank-firing pistol which he had designed himself Ã¢?? it was the Perfecta, the best-known weapon of its kind. The Perfecta pistol lead to the foundation of the firm of Mayer & Riem in Arnsberg, from which, after some years, the UMAREX-company evolved, which at first was a marketing company."

The pistol is not really semi-auto, technically, it's just a repeater. The blanks are loaded into the tubular magazine (you can see the domed follower) which is inserted into the grip. Pulling the trigger manually feeds, fires, and ejects the spent blank. Gas is exhausted through the circular vent atop the slide. Subsequent shots eject the blank through the rectangular port behind the vent.

I'd assume the "MaRie" mark on the grip is a conjunction of the firm names Mayer & Riem.

http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload...cta_pistol.jpg
http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/perfecta_box.jpg

Jack

Thank you guys for all the information.
really appreciated,
Cheers
Mauro