Best grip and stance while shooting a Luger
 

Im wondering what the best grip on a luger and stance while firing one is. I shoot at about 38 paces, so almost 28yrds, and i can only get a wide pattern and its mostly to the left. I mean im putting all of them on a 8.5x11 piece of paper, but i wish i could get the infamous accuracy these have. Mine has a beautiful bore, just a little fogging, no pitting, and i thnk the fogging is from the years of firing corrosive ammo, just took the bright shine out of it, its still got shine, but not bright shine.

Any help would be great, pics would be excellent.
Thanks
Jarrod M

Jarrod,

In my opinion the two handed "Weaver" stance is the best. Bottom of shooting hand cradled in the opposite hand with index finger wrapped around the front of the trigger guard. Shooting hand with slight forward pressure, off hand with slight rearward pressure and elbows bent. Body at approx. 45 degree angle to target with left foot forward, if right handed. Right foot forward, if left handed. A tried and true stance. Also referred to as "Combat Stance".

Ron

Jarrod,

1. Most pistols are capable of far greater accuracy than their owners
2. Most shooters are flinchers

If you don't own a revolver, borrow one from a friend for an hour. Without looking, put only two rounds in the cylinder, spin it between rounds so you don't know where they are in relation to each other, close it, then point it down range and start shooting. (I call this "flincher's roulette") What you see yourself do when the hammer falls on an empty chamber will tell you whether or not you are a flincher, and how badly.

Ron's right about the two-handed hold. It makes a huge difference, cowboy movies notwithstanding. But the biggest leap forward in shooting ability for the vast majority of people is recognizing and conquering flinching.

Cure for flinching: Buy a revolver and always play flincher's roulette at the range until you no longer have a problem. Don't practice with hot loads, it makes the problem harder to conquer. When satisfied you are no longer a flincher, send me the revolver as a sign of respect and gratitude.

David the Flincher

Jarrod,

The patterning toward the left can be related to trigger pull. The Luger's trigger pull is long--I don't want to say "creepy" or "spongy"--and as your finger flexes to take up the trigger travel your hand wants to follow it and rotate to the left (for a right-handed shooter).

Pay attention to how your finger and hand moves as you press the trigger (not necessarily dry firing, just exercising the trigger finger) and find or practice a motion which makes your hand move the least.

--Dwight

Is dry firing a luger bad?
 

Yea im right handed. I use my best immitation of the "combat stance". At least what i was taught. I can shoot my berettas pretty good using this stance, but ive only shot the luger once. I want to shoot it more, im addicted. I just hate ammo prices, and i even reload.
I have a 44 mag ruger super black hawk that i have target loads for, ive only shot it once or twice too. I dry fire my berettas, but the trigger is so much different on the luger. Is it bad to dry fire a luger. Would it help to put a spent casing in there. I just hate to mar up the extractor by putting a "bubba" round in there.

Thanks guys. A pic would really help with the luger in hand. Thanks
Jarrod M

Jarrod,

Go with a 9mm snap cap for dry-firing a Luger. You can **** it without completely extracting.

--Dwight

Would a spent case work ok, or is it bad to use also?
I just would prefer not havting to buy one, but if i do i can.
Thanks
Jarrod M

Hi,

You can also try the traditional German style. One hand, elbow flexed to be able to get the distance between the sights and your eyes to an acceptable level and gently squeeze the trigger. Body at 45 degree angle.

http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload...mall_copy1.jpg

Wearing the proper attire is also recommended :)
(this Fotograph shows 'Baerenschwinger' member Muncheberg around 1920)
http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload...berg_copy1.jpg

There is an interesting cartoon showing Georg Luger at a Swiss shooting match. He flexed his elbow so much that only a few inches remained between the rear of the gun and his eyes :)

Jarrod,

Go with the snap cap. The problem with dry-firing a Luger is the egregious slamming of the stiker into the back of the breech face. A snap cap is a spring-loaded device, and so will cushion the striker tip and reduce or eliminate this blow. A spent case may do so for a few dry-fires, but eventually the striker tip may beat the primer in to the point that it will no longer soften the striker movement.

--Dwight

Gerben,

I always wear knickers, knee socks and a neck tie when I go shooting. It's only proper. You wouldn't want people to point and laugh, would you?

Ron

New Range Report.
 

Took her out again today.
Shot at 28? yards again, and at 15yrds.
These are the grip posistions and stances i used.
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r...i/000_0004.jpg

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r...i/000_0009.jpg

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r...i/100_1890.jpg
This is the targets. The left top one is from 28 yards, the bottom middle one is from 15 yards, and the top right one is the one my mom shot at :D

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r...i/000_0013.jpg

And a Vid clip,
 

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r...h_000_0011.jpg

Its a video clip, click on it to get it to work :D

Let me know what you think.
Jarrod M

Go Mom!

I watched the video and don't see any flinching. I would get a plastic/rubber headed mallet (any good hardware store) and give that front sight a little whack toward the left. Then all you have to do is remember your Luger shoots a bit high.

Oh man, you didn't just slap that Luger, did you? I hope it never slaps you back... :D

Good Weaver stance. That's just the way I do it too... :cheers:

I saw that in a movie once, and thought i would see if it actualy worked. Wont do it again...just made the vid look more dramatic :D
???? to the left while looking down the sights or looking from the frint of the barrel.
Thanks
Jarrod M

To the left while looking down the sights.
Whacking a Luger while looking from the front of the barrel is just begging for a Teutonic punch in the nose.

LOL!! :D

This may take some serious force, mine needed a brass punch with the barrel clamped in a vise between 2 sections of wood. Keep pounding, it will move.

best if pictures are posted here on this site, not photobucket (they stay, as long as the thread remains). That said, nice shooting Tex, looks like Mom will be picking up a 1914 Erfurt Artillery for christmas ;)



ed

Often when a pistol goes to the left like that, it can be a matter of finger pull. You can try to unload the gun, take out the magazine and see if the muzzle goes to the left when pulling the trigger. ..perhaps if you have one of those cheap laser pens, you can simply tape it on and see if you drag it to the dot to the left a little during the pull (don't have to adjust it up perfectly with the sight).