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Enzo 06-15-2007 06:41 PM

inherited
 
Can any one tell me a little about this Luger. My grand father gave it to me before he died. He loved this gun and now I do too. Is it a collectable or a shooter. All #'s match except the mag. He brought it back from WWII, where he picked it off a German soldure.
Thanks

Enzo


http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/luger10_copy1.jpg

Curly1 06-15-2007 06:50 PM

It would be helpful if you could show us a pic of the top and other side if you can

Enzo 06-15-2007 06:52 PM

Curly1 were you able to see the pics

Edward Tinker 06-15-2007 07:44 PM

post information so we can help. Don't use just pictures (and only one shows). tell us the year stamped on it, the proofs / acceptance on the right, the toggle marking, etc.

Enzo 06-16-2007 12:03 AM

Luger Identification Form
1. S/42
2. 1938
3. Circle checkerd hollow center
4. Not present
5. present
6. 9mm
7. (? )(chechered)(? ) (no insignia)
8. (?) (Gesichert)
9. (Proof marks- breech left side #46 -from incignia list- 2 eagles with #63 underneith, third eagle more like #45 only no #underneith----Barrel left side eagle same as third on breach----frame close to barrel bottom side cursive K
10. 4''
11. n/a
12. open, V (rear) tryangle with ridges (front)
13. Aluminum bottom, cursive O and an X---eagle and # 37 on mag body

Particular specimen

1. S/42
2. 75%
3. no straw
4. excelent
5. very good
6. all matching except mag
7. no
9. no

Steinar 06-16-2007 05:01 AM

Your Luger is made in the Mauser factory. Not much more to say about it from the provided data.

It's a nice piece of history and you are lucky to have one!
From the one picture, it looks very dry. With some surface rust and pitting.. think it's time you take it apart and oil it in well. Perhaps soak it in Kroil over night, and 'rubb' it in with oil afterwards.
You can also carefully remove the grips and look for any markings on the inside. Think they look a bit too 'single colored' to come from the s/42. Welcome btw:)

Enzo 06-16-2007 10:38 AM

I appologize for the lack of pics. I am just learning the pic upload feature. Appareantly every photo must be imported to your message seperatly? Any way here are some more

Thanks
Enzo

http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/luger1_copy6.jpg

http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/luger2_copy10.jpg

http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/luger3_copy7.jpg

http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/luger4_copy4.jpg

http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/luger5_copy4.jpg

http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/luger6_copy4.jpg

http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/luger7_copy4.jpg

http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/luger8_copy4.jpg

http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/luger9_copy3.jpg

http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/luger10_copy3.jpg

http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/luger13_copy2.jpg

http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/luger14_copy2.jpg

http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/luger15_copy1.jpg

http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/luger_copy9.jpg

http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/luger20.jpg

http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/luger21.jpg

I thinh I am doing this right. Please let me know if I am not.

waltherguy 06-16-2007 12:07 PM

Nice Luger! As Tac & Morgan suggested, get some good gun oil & let it soak. Some soft scrubbing should remove some of the surface rust that is forming and prevent the gun from further pitting/deteriorating.

Steinar 06-16-2007 03:10 PM

A very honest looking Luger, just like I like them.
Most of the rust will go off with regular oil if you spend some time on it. Rubbing is the key.. and then some more.. and when you think you're finish, do it twice as long. ;) I'm sure it will turn out great.

CROLUGER 06-16-2007 05:07 PM

clean!
 
Oil and clean, than you will have nice luger. With oil (I use WD-40) and copper coin you can clean rust.

Edward Tinker 06-16-2007 05:19 PM

WD-40 will work, but any of the true gun oils you can buy at a gun store or at Wal-mart will work better. WD-40 is a cleaner, not a lubricant, so clean, then follow up with an oil...

Here is a report on WD-40, it works, but not as well as other oils...
http://www.thegunzone.com/rust.html

from the net, what others say about WD-40...
Quote:

The "WD" stands for "water displacing," and WD-40 does that task well. That means it is good for hosing down and flushing out that duck gun that fell overboard, at least until you can get it home for a proper cleaning. However, WD-40 tends to gum and turn into a varnish with time. So WD-40 may be fine for an external wipe down, but it is potentially devastating to moving parts that require lubrication. In my experience, WD-40 has little, if any, lubricating properties, and is best left for its designed tasks.
http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/...p?t-17525.html

http://kalashnikov.guns.ru/wwwboard/messages/4955.html

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...45/ai_55605512

Enzo 06-16-2007 06:51 PM

Thanks for the responses every one. I am having trouble disassembling the Luger. I am following the step by step instructions found on this site. The hangup is encountered when I try to use the blunt end of a screwdriver to remove the safty catch, step #4 any suggestions.

Edward Tinker 06-16-2007 07:05 PM

yes, relieve the pressure first. I always push the muzzle against my leg, then the take down lever will move down. DO NOT FORCE IT WITH A SCREWDRIVER, OR YOU'LL SNAP IT OFF.

You can also push the receiver back with one hand while you manipulate the take down lever.

I hope you are not trying to take the safety "catch" off? You can, but there is no need. I have seldom taken a luger all the way down, it simply is not required, nor needed in my opinion. Even for a "new" gun, I take it down to its most basic, parts, but ones that only require a take down tool. I know others take every gun completely apart and ultra clean it.


ED

Enzo 06-16-2007 07:15 PM

Thanks for all your help Ed. How far should I take the luger down. The instructions go pretty far. I don't know for sure how deep the cleaning has ever been preformed. I would like to strip it and soak it. How long should it soak. what should I scrub it with. Are there any videos that a novice like me can take notes from.

Thanks

Enzo

waltherguy 06-16-2007 07:23 PM

I prefer 0000 steel wool & MMC (Molecular Metal Conditioners) its a reddish oil. Works fantastic. Breakfree also works well to Oil/Clean... Think you'll have one sharp Luger when she's all cleaned up!!

383 magnum 06-16-2007 09:45 PM

I use bronze wool or OOOO steel wool soaked in WD-40. That has worked well for me in removing surface rust.

MFC 06-17-2007 12:48 AM

These video's will help.
http://www.dropshots.com/dumontc
Mike C.

Steinar 06-17-2007 04:18 AM

Sounds like the way I have been doing it, pushing it back with my right hand only. Using the left to takedown the lever and remove sideplate. Also illustrated in various manuals..

Not long ago, posted pictures of my christmas gift, police Luger with a broken takedown lever. Also I remember another guy here recently having a broken takedown lever..
So as Ed say's, it IS possible to brake it!

Quentin 06-17-2007 04:48 AM

My old shooter is limber so I just press the barrel with my left hand and flick down the takedown lever. But my 41 byf is so stiff I usually field strip it by pulling back the toggle over an empty magazine to lock the toggle then remove the magazine and turn the take down lever. Then lower the toggle before removing the side plate then receiver.

Man I'd sure hate to break a takedown in the Luger; I hope you figured out a way to safely get the shaft out, Steinar!

Ron Wood 06-17-2007 04:20 PM

As posted by Tac Foley (and I think the same method as mentioned by Steinar), it is easy to retract the receiver enough to rotate the takedown lever. Remove the magazine, and with the safety off, grip the frame and toggle knobs as shown in the following photo provided by Tac. Just squeeze so that the barrel/receiver group slides back until the toggle knobs contact the frame ramps and then rotate the takedown lever with your other hand. It works just as well for toggle-lock and grip safety Lugers.
http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/takedown_grip.jpg


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