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MFC 04-21-2007 02:35 AM

Spot reblue?
 
Hi all,
I have a Luger that has blueing missing only in spots. Something got on it and removed the the rust blue down to the white. Other than these areas, the gun is as new with almost no wear on well over 90% of the finish. I really want to save as much of the original finish as possible.
I've heard that spot or area reblueing is possible without having to reblue the whole part and I'd like to know what I can expect from this procedure.
Thanks in advance,
Mike C.

Lugerdoc 04-21-2007 08:31 AM

Mike, It's been my experience that this procedure wll potect the previously unblued surfaces, but will not match the original rust/salt blue. For best results, it's best to remove the original blue from an entire area (barrel, grip strap, etc) and cold blue it to a dark color, allow to dry, and then thin it down with a stainless brush to a color approximating the orig blue. TH

Ron Wood 04-21-2007 10:01 AM

I saw a near mint salt blued Luger that had a bright spot on the right frame ear where the blue had been removed somehow. Ted Green re-blued the spot with rust blue and the result matched perfectly! If I hadn't seen it I wouldn't have believed it.

redbear 04-21-2007 11:51 AM

Oxpho works amazing to cover up small spots... but if you haev a lot of spots I'm not sure I'd recomend it...

Hugh 04-21-2007 04:12 PM

Oxypho Blue from Brownells is probably the best, with Dichropan T4 a close second.

MFC 04-21-2007 09:01 PM

Thanks guys,
My luger is rust blued and the majority of the blue loss is on the barrel with some other small areas on the front of the frame and trigger gaurd. I'd really like to save the halos on the barrel if the color could be matched. Can the Oxypho Blue be matched to a rust blue finish? Also, is it possible to (rust blue) only on certain areas and not a whole part? If so the barrel wouldn't have to be removed from the receiver.
Thanks again,
Mike C.

redbear 04-22-2007 02:52 AM

Honestly?

Why reblue at all? the bluing wear it has it's part of it;s history, adn to reblue it is to remove that history, which is what makes it unique.

MFC 04-23-2007 12:41 AM

Thanks redbear,
I have other lugers w/ normal wear and wouldn't dream of reblueing them. This one however is not normal wear. The gun is in almost unfired condition, and these areas are down to the white, and very distracting. Something (my guess is blood) removed the blue only where it touched it, leaving the rest of the finish almost perfect. This (I think) would justify area reblueing like Ron mentioned earlier.
Mike C.

redbear 04-23-2007 12:52 AM

Well then, go with teh oxpho blue and small amount of 0000 steel wool... go slow, and it will match pretty damn close. HTH~

MFC 04-23-2007 01:20 AM

I assume rust blue won't work, since it wasn't recomended by anybody. BTW, I won't be doing this myself. I've been trying to get in touch with Ted Green, by Pm, email and phone with no response. I hope he is just very busy and not sick again.
Mike C.

Hugh 04-23-2007 01:54 AM

I believe Ted is working on back orders and is reluctant to take new ones until he gets caught up. If you follow the instructions with the Oxpho Blue, you can match rust blue with it. In fact, I have blued a couple of gun barrels with Oxpho Blue and it looked like a rust blued bbl.

MFC 04-23-2007 03:09 AM

Thanks again guys,
I just reread Ron's response and realized he said Ted reblued the spot w/ (rust blue) to match the salt blue. I hope the results will be the same. I'll keep trying to get in touch with Ted. I'm in no hurry.
Mike C.

Thor 07-21-2007 11:27 AM

That was the late ABC cameraman Robert Jennings Luger. No relation to the late Peter Jennings, though they are seen here in VN. Send me an email to Thor340@aol.com with pictures please. I dont visit the forum much, because in the recent past, there was more joy away from some people that wished me unkind things. May God bless John Dunkle and Ralph Shattuck, they have been true treasures, blessing our lives. Special thanks to Hugh Clark, Marvin Cook, John Sabato, GT Tomek, Tom Heller and Les Center also. Ted & Natalie Green

http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/Blemishbefore.jpg
http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/BlemishA2.jpg

http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/RJenningsC.JPG

Pete Ebbink 07-21-2007 11:56 AM

Sorry to learn that Mr. Jennings passed away :

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=2865249

Here are the discussions Robert participated in during his brief time on the LF (he only made 25 postings) :

http://forum.lugerforum.com/search.p...earchid=118109

LugerVern 07-21-2007 05:32 PM

Thro: Beautiful edging work! The mark of a professional!!! I have always been impressed with your work, not a hint of a mistakeâ??nice!

Mike: Everyone is correct here; it is possible to blend your finish seamlessly with your spot repairs but risky and you may get a mottled finish. If you have not had much experience with bluing I recommend going to a professional. Many of the more experienced people on this forum have had time to play with shooters and know how to tweak bluing solutions to get the right effect. For them its� oh no problem� but I assure you there is technique involved.

Experimenting with your 90% Luger is not how to learn!

The absolute hardest thing: is for us to leave our guns aloneâ??are you sure you want to do this yourself?


Well, thatâ??s my to two cents worth

I like â??Vanâ??sâ? for small touch ups, itâ??s made for layering.

Vern

MFC 07-22-2007 09:43 AM

Vern,
I don't want to do this myself. I was asking if it could be done with good results. I want it done right, (rust blue).
I'm glad to see that Ted (Thor) responded. I'll contact him soon. I did talk to him earlier, but he was backed up at the time.
Thanks,
Mike C.

MFC 07-23-2007 01:02 AM

I sent pics. to Thor and he said he could fix it. I'm really looking forward to it. Other than those problem areas, it's a really beautiful 1906 American Eagle 9mm, that deserves the best craftmanship possible.
Mike C.

Thor 09-19-2007 02:23 PM

Mike, I shipped your Luger back today. I was very happy with the spot repairs. The back of the frame over the lanyard loop was also lacking of bluing and very spotty looking, so I fixed that too. Hope you like the work! A superb Luger! Thanks for letting me work on it.

MFC 09-20-2007 12:23 AM

Hi Ted,
Having seen some of your previous work on the forum and some (before and after) pics you sent me... if your very happy with it, I know it will be an exeptional job. Thanks for the extra work. I can't wait to see it.
Mike C.

Thor 09-20-2007 11:39 AM

Speaking of before and after pictures, I wish I had taken some after pictures of your Eagle. Your gun is a great example of what can be done to spots at different locations and still keep the majority of the original bluing left in place. Thanks for letting me work in it.


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