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10e.licorne 02-05-2007 03:18 PM

new artillery 1915 Luger
 
hi

it's not the same quality of my auther Luger but that do you think about this one

1915 and Serial number 4968




http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/luger_copy5.jpg

http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/luger1_copy2.jpg

http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/luger2_copy1.jpg

http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/luger3_copy2.jpg

thanks


lugerholsterrepair 02-05-2007 07:12 PM

Looks like it has a front sight off a rifle...Jerry Burney

tracyp 02-05-2007 07:16 PM

It looks like the front sight has been modified. It shouldn't cover the chamber date.

policeluger 02-05-2007 07:32 PM

do you mean rear sight?

Ron Smith 02-05-2007 07:46 PM

The rear sight is off of a Mauser 98 Carbine. They did a good job of marrying it to the base.

Big Norm 02-06-2007 12:17 PM

The front sight isn't right either. It was standard to have a adjustible front sight on a 1915 and this one does not appear to be adjustible. (hard to tell from the pictures though) Even considering that, it just does not look right. There should be a base that elevates the sight. Frankly, this gun looks to be rebarreled. The parts that should be strawed look like they were blued. Bad buffing job on the rebluing of the gun. The locking bolt lever isn't right either. The checkered knob has been badly messed with. I think that that is enough on this gun. I pass on it.

If I had any interest in this gun, I would look at the rear toggle to see in an old P-08 sight was filed off. I would have to, physically, see the gun and take a close look to really tell. I think that it is a 'put-together' by someone trying to make more money off of an artillery. :grr:
Big Norm :(

10e.licorne 02-06-2007 01:22 PM

I will try to now more about this pistol

I was in an expectativ way t's for that I post it

it's didn't come from an collector who wanted to make monney i dont think that

may be an artisanal works post war

sorry for my english

10e.licorne 02-08-2007 02:25 AM

it's an old rework made by an arsenal gunsmith for itself

it' was found in a stock of old firearms and was rusty
it was file-down and reblue without any knowledge in 1955

this explain that

best regards from france

Ron Wood 02-08-2007 09:15 AM

A pretty clever adaptation of a rifle sight. The step behind the side plate is odd...does it have any function?
http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/step.jpg

Lugerdoc 02-08-2007 09:42 AM

The TDL appears to be from either a M29 Swiss or a Swiss model Parabellum. TH

Les 02-12-2007 11:04 PM

Rear sight looks to be from broom mauser to me..but modified ..another example of rework lugers

Steinar 02-13-2007 04:11 AM

That's an interesting puzzle sorriaux, thanks for sharing :)

For me it looks like a k98 sight, put into German 1915 DWM, without receiver markings on right side but with a matching swiss TDL and magazine. And it doesn't end there.. some strange piece is placed behind the side plate (to improve mag release spring?) and the front of the barrel looks somewhat home made, making me lean towards a Schmeizer barrel made to fit the Luger. All probably done in a time where there was a lot more Lugers that people drawling over them..

..in short.. buy it! :D (as a LP08 looking shooter)
Not all modifications is made to enhance the value. I'm guessing a similar situation in France as we have here in norway.. It's often hard to sell a rare Krieghoff for more than a S/42 in same condition. So putting that much work into 'faking' a Luger would be rather silly. Looks like this Luger has it's own special history to tell, and if you're lucky, it's pleasant to shoot with as well. Just my two pfennig:)

btw. does the receiver have the notch for the rear sight? ..over the chamber, towards the barrel.

DCCUK 02-13-2007 07:57 AM

Hello from England
Just my two penceworth too.....

What is the Law in France on this type of pistol?
Is it classed as a pistol or a carbine?
Can you keep it at home and take it out to the range to shoot?
I am asking because we have some very strange FIREARMS laws in the UK
http://police.homeoffice.gov.uk/oper.../firearms.html
but being in the EU maybe one day we will get commonality.....

In the mean time I will continue to shoot my Luger, Lahti, PP etc at Bisley.

BR DCCUK

10e.licorne 02-13-2007 09:20 PM

tanks morgan ...I d'nt want to buy it ....I prefere my LP1918 for shooting
but it was a curiosity ...for me to now more about this one

DCCuk we have a lot of problems here in France for collecting firearms
we have a list of 80 firearms we may collect it's only very scarce piece
at last we may collect pistols or gun made before 1871...

the auther way is to be a shooter you may have after un police inquiry 12 firearms (7 in military caliber and 5 in civil caliber) you have an autorisation for 5 years

after you have the legal way it's to send its to the Saint Etienne proof arsenal to be desactited ......the good way for current pieces but not for an
Krieghoff "P" serial ....

best regards
tanks for all

jean marie

Steinar 02-14-2007 03:27 PM

Jean, things are a little different here. But if things get more strict.. perhaps I would need to consider this one http://www.members.cox.net/lvrbgun/luger.html


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