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rjbuckley 12-19-2006 02:29 PM

What attracts you to the luger?
 
Viewers,
I'm interested to know personal opinions. What is it about the german lugers of old? Is it the history? The unique design? Some personal connection? The reason I ask is because I can't see this particular gun as anything practicle to today's standards. In fact I'm not really confident that one can fire them on a constant basis, with any reliability. Perhaps Im wrong.

Please give me a lesson in value.

Thanks,
-rb

Vlim 12-19-2006 04:05 PM

Hi,

You're wrong. They are very reliable, have won several world championships and it is actually more practicle as a target gun than as a military sidearm. Nonetheless, this design has (and still does) put other, later, designs to shame on a regular basis.

I put about a 100 rounds a week through my S/42 shooter. Hasn't failed me once, apart from the occasional ejector spring replacement.

davidkachel 12-19-2006 04:43 PM

Re: What attracts you to the luger?
 
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Originally posted by rjbuckley
Viewers,
I'm interested to know personal opinions. What is it about the german lugers of old? Is it the history? The unique design? Some personal connection? The reason I ask is because I can't see this particular gun as anything practicle to today's standards. In fact I'm not really confident that one can fire them on a constant basis, with any reliability. Perhaps Im wrong.

Please give me a lesson in value.

Thanks,
-rb

Like anything, it all comes down to opinion.
To me the Luger is the zenith of beauty in a handgun.
The perfect marriage of form and function.
I'm not a Luger collector. In fact I own only one.
But I own a lot of other guns, more than half of which I bought for their appearance first and functionality second, and the Luger is by far the most visually appealing of all (and they do function reliably, they just don't like a lot of dirt).
There are a lot of close seconds, but only close.

And the way current trends in handgun design and manufacture are going (lots of plastic and cost-cutting), nothing like it will ever appear again.

I don't care how reliable (I question this strongly) Glocks and all the other block-shaped modern handguns may be. They can't hold a candle to the beauty of many older weapons, especially the Luger.

Edward Tinker 12-19-2006 04:53 PM

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I think this is a personal thing. I have lots of "older" guns, I like the history associated with them (although for lugers I "prefer" the Weimar and earlier for the same reasons). when I was young, I read about lugers and they always fascinated me. On the other hand, I have always liked the Colt 1911 and 1911A1 variants, then in the army, I carried one for about 2/3rds of my career, so naturally I trust them more than I trust a Glock or other newer gun like a High Power :D

There are a post or two like these, although it might be several years old, and always a good thread to read.

Why do YOU like the luger?

Ed

It is obvious that HE is looking for just the right one!

davidkachel 12-19-2006 05:00 PM

Now THAT'S a very disturbing picture! (Though I'm sure it would make a lot of our politicians happy.)

pipeman45 12-19-2006 05:32 PM

I fell in love with the Luger back in the early 60's. Didn't get around to buying one until the prices started going through the roof a few years ago. The things that attracted me to them were the history,and workmanship . They are a very elegant handgun that screams form=function. There will never be another handgun made this way.

lugerholsterrepair 12-19-2006 05:51 PM

I wonder if you could calculate how much the parts in this photo would be worth today? Screws, grips, springs, fireing pins, bolts etc..Must be millions of dollars worth there..

For me it is many things but the history and variety is some of it. This pistol played a part in Military evolution in a unique era. As a Military historian I am most focused on the period when the Luger was accepted untill it's manufacture ceased.
I also collect Colt pocket auto's and as a pistol they are much the same as the Luger. Functional, designed well, work every time, beautiful bluing and wood. They practically fall apart with little effort, unlike say a c-96. BUT, they have very little Military history. Some were issued to General Officers of course but in general next to nothing compared with the Luger. As neat as they are they become boring compared with the history of the Luger. It's many variations are enough to keep me occupied for many more years to come!

Jerry Burney

Curly1 12-19-2006 07:25 PM

The design is what attracted me, it is the Queen of my collection, beautiful eye candy, comforting when held and at the same time deadly, where my 1911A1a is the King, brute force wrapped in nobility.

davidkachel 12-19-2006 08:47 PM

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Originally posted by Curly1
The design is what attracted me, it is the Queen of my collection, beautiful eye candy, comforting when held and at the same time deadly, where my 1911A1a is the King, brute force wrapped in nobility.
Well put. Consider it stolen.

stefanosg 12-19-2006 09:08 PM

I am a bit of a history buff and an avid shooter. The Luger, for me, was a beautiful blending of the two. I hold the firearm and I wonder about who the original owner was. What happened to him and so many other questions. No other pistol seems to invoke so much curiosity and awe from the people who see it. I go to the range and I'll bring my Glock or my Witness to practice with. I almost always bring one of my Lugers with me as well. People turn a blind eye to my Glock, but when they see the Luger, its "Is that a real Luger?". I love sharing it and showing it to people, its like getting under the glass at the museum. Whatever the magic is, very few other pistols seem to generate that kind of enthusiasm.

DaveinTN 12-20-2006 12:47 AM

Great proportions, beautiful style, elegant appearance, and comfortable fit.

All the rest is commentary.

Dave in TN.

Dwight Gruber 12-20-2006 01:39 AM

What Dave in TN said. I realized this when I was eight years old and had a 9/10 scale, detail-accurate Kruger cap gun.

Since I've owned a real Luger, while circumstances allowed I shot several hundred rounds a month with virtually no failures--proper magazines, ammunition, and technique assure this. Lugers, even those with badly pitted bores, are phenomenally accuate.

--Dwight

rjbuckley 12-20-2006 07:33 AM

Good responses!
Thanks. I'm on the mystique side of the house myself.
The design is incredible, the history profound.
I'm very excited to have on as a part of my collection.
My only fear is that I become addicted and do so before I have a chance to be as knowledgable as you folks are.

Thanks for all your input,
-rb

Dante Di Pietro Jr. 12-20-2006 09:22 AM

When I was 6 or 7 years old my father who was a gun dealer/collector had a room full of fine guns, parkers, winchesters, military guns of all types. I was drawn to an artillery luger that he let me hold any time I went into the gun room. I ignored all the others except the MG42 which I got into trouble with for setting it up when he was not there(no ammo). I was able to disassemble and assemble the artillery, just fell in love with it. 40 years later Im still hooked, History, workmanship and shooting are just gravy.
The memories of collecting with my Dad are priceless. Thanks for the question and thanks you guys for the lugerforum and thanks Al G. for inventing the internet!
Merry Christmas
Dante

Dan44 12-20-2006 10:41 AM

It's the ultimate movie "bad guy" gun.

davidkachel 12-20-2006 10:46 AM

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Originally posted by Dan44
It's the ultimate movie "bad guy" gun.
I disagree.
The Luger is the ultimate movie bad "spy" gun.
The ultimate movie bad "guy" gun is the 1903 Colt Pocket Hammer (.38 ACP); which of course I own.

Pappy 12-20-2006 03:51 PM

no wood grip panels...
 
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Originally posted by lugerholsterrepair
I wonder if you could calculate how much the parts in this photo would be worth today? Screws, grips, springs, fireing pins, bolts etc..Must be millions of dollars worth there..
Jerry Burney

Jerry, I notice that there are no wood grip panels in the photo. I wonder if this pile has been through a fire? First step before meltdown? Pappy

Edward Tinker 12-20-2006 04:00 PM

Pappy, look to the right, I see what looks like a huge pile of magazines. I was wondering if they had started to take some parts off, and...


I would say there are probably tens of millions of dollars of guns and parts there...

Pappy 12-20-2006 05:10 PM

Yes and the pile seems to have an abundance of 'broomhandles'. Maybe the people hid their Lugers. I do see what appears to be a snaildrum magazine.
Interesting photo that makes me feel somewhat ill...Pappy

Pappy 12-21-2006 12:21 PM

"Yankee Fist"
 
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Originally posted by Curly1
The design is what attracted me, it is the Queen of my collection, beautiful eye candy, comforting when held and at the same time deadly, where my 1911A1a is the King, brute force wrapped in nobility.
That's why the Germans called the M1911 the "Yankee Fist"...Pappy


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